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    Default Query, Achilles Quote?

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    From: "Rudnicki, Edward J Mr CIV USA AMC" <email deleted>
    Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:04:16 AM
    Subject: Source of Achilles Quote?

    I encountered a quote some years ago. This may not be the
    best H-NET list to ask on, but it's the one I'm subscribed
    to, and it does refer to the Trojan War.

    "Achilles is without fear when he is armed."

    Who said/wrote it, and when, and why?

    I've searched myself without success. I'm guessing the
    original is Roman/Latin, and I suspect I may have a bad
    English rendering of it.

    The quote in its original language would be appreciated it as
    well. Thanks in advance,

    Ed Rudnicki

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    Default Re: Query, Achilles Quote?

    Tough one. I suppose it might be from the Iliad (well duh) given it mentions Achiles. Is there another part of this quote you remember? I remember something about Peleas being really brave when on the field mentioned in the Iliad, but that's just in greek. There are tons of small references to Achiles bravery from Homer though but I' ll try to narrow it down.
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    Default Re: Query, Achilles Quote?

    Well I read some of the Iliad were Homer wrote about Achiles weapons, shield , armour etc. and the only one close to what you said is when Patroclos asks for Achiles armour, helmet and shield to lead the attack on the Trojans who have pinned the Argeans near their ships saying that his (Achiles) weapons will inspire fear to the Trojans when they see Patroclos charge, as they will mistake him for Achilees and will try to flee the shore and head back to the city.
    Unfortunately this is not the quote you are looking for. If you could remember were you encountered this quote it would be really helpful.
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    Default Re: Query, Achilles Quote?

    It is not actually me, I am but trying to help somebody else on the Military History mailing List who was asking for the quote. As we have so many Hellenophiles here I thought I would forward the question. Thanks for the effort though.
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    Default Re: Query, Achilles Quote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    From H-War:
    From: "Rudnicki, Edward J Mr CIV USA AMC" <email deleted>
    Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:04:16 AM
    Subject: Source of Achilles Quote?

    I encountered a quote some years ago. This may not be the
    best H-NET list to ask on, but it's the one I'm subscribed
    to, and it does refer to the Trojan War.

    "Achilles is without fear when he is armed."

    Who said/wrote it, and when, and why?

    I've searched myself without success. I'm guessing the
    original is Roman/Latin, and I suspect I may have a bad
    English rendering of it.

    The quote in its original language would be appreciated it as
    well. Thanks in advance,

    Ed Rudnicki

    Any hellenophiles?
    I honestly don't know, but if the formulation is anything close to the Greek, then it looks Iliadic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    I honestly don't know, but if the formulation is anything close to the Greek, then it looks Iliadic.
    I have heard it quite a lot in Latin:

    "Sine timore Achilles armatus"

    but I do not know it's source.

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