Whats happened to this forum?

**Prince Cobra** · 03-31-2010, 08:53

Originally Posted by pevergreen

Warman...I don't want to bring that back up. inb4 lock etc

But I disagree that the person must fit. If it was that rigid, you wouldn't have people like PI, or me when I started. Or even now.

As for your last paragraph, in my current state I don't understand most of what you said and so I shall not respond to it.

I share a slightly different opinion on Warman. My ghostly account in the TWC is perhaps kept alive because I discuss with Warman various ingame issues. We are very different (if not totally opposite) and that's perhaps what gives charm to our communication. With the suitable approach, he can give a lot to the Org. It is not necessary to agree with everything he says, of course. But more understanding and tolerant. People grow up and change and eventually, this happens with him. I really hope he will return soon and I really hope his impetuous nature won't bring him trouble again. But he certainly deserves a chance. And yes, perhaps we need slightly more impetious people (slightly!)

I would also express my view that permament bans should be in very very limited numbers.

I also think Kage is right. Gollum also has some point as well. Things are changing. The future of the Org. should no longer be tied only with the TW games, I think. We can continue the policy of enlightened absolutism and there is nothing bad in it. I also despise the reputations, perhaps because I never aimed to be popular. But apart from that, I support the changes.

The modifications of the profile were funny but I believe they were temporarily postponed after the update. But a slightly more liberal approach won't harm as well, though trolling should not be tolerated. And once again, the TW alone seem not to be a viable option for the Org. anymore.

**Subedei** · 03-31-2010, 09:21

I for my part don´t come here so often any more b/c I do not play mafia games.

As soon as I click on new posts "half" of these are some sort of mafia this, or mafia that. I was used to interesting discussions about history / TW games [esp. EB] and sometimes soccer discussions. Well, I am not the Alpha & Omega of this forum, so just my 2 cents.

**pevergreen** · 03-31-2010, 09:33

Originally Posted by gollum

In fact you and PI are among the few new/young members that "managed" to fit. You in particular are still in the process imo.

As for the last paragraph, i am indebted to your shortsightedness ;)

You calling me young? I joined here on *insert join date here* and i was...15. I am now 19.

I have to grow up some time, I guess?

And I'm totally older than Beefy. And maybe GH as well, I forget.

Would you believe that my mental capacity is so low right now that I don't understand what you are saying with that second line?

Originally Posted by Prince Cobra

I would also express my view that permament bans should be in very very limited numbers.

I also think Kage is right. Gollum also has some point as well. Things are changing. The future of the Org. should no longer be tied only with the TW games, I think.

Bans: I don't know of a single perma ban. Warman's ban is only for a year. Plus any extensions added on (if there are any, and if it works like that)

I completely agree that the org needs to accept more games than just Total War, if we want to grow. The simplest expansion, the Paradox games.

**Beefy187** · 03-31-2010, 12:32

Originally Posted by pevergreen

And I'm totally older than Beefy. And maybe GH as well, I forget.

Funny that.
Asian people thinks I'm in the late 20s.
Europeans thinks I'm still a grade 10ner

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

That is the current situation. But we could easily over come this with the quantity and quality of our members

**Kagemusha** · 03-31-2010, 12:39

Originally Posted by Beefy187

Funny that.
Asian people thinks I'm in the late 20s.
Europeans thinks I'm still a grade 10ner

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

That is the current situation. But we could easily over come this with the quantity and quality of our members

Also it will be quite probaly that sooner or later we will witness the release of either R2TW (most propably) or S2TW ( bit less). And i am quite sure that both titles would strike home in this audience. Thus we have to survive untill that happens and not bury our heads in the sand.

**Beefy187** · 03-31-2010, 12:49

I'll stick around. And if those 2 titles are going to be the next release... I might even buy them.

If worst comes to worst, we can set up a TosaInu coorporation and take over CA

**caravel** · 03-31-2010, 14:07

The abolition of the avatar restrictions make perfect sense. People like to be individuals, but the avatars here are anything but. It would be nice if a choice of avatars were available (I'm not referring to the URL avatars - they are only viewable by registered members and are an addtion to the default avatars). Opening up the avatar selection to allow users to upload their own would be well worth it. What is the biggest problem? Me having the fluffy bunny avatar I've always wanted, or the person with massive signature that takes up two thirds of your screen? It's pointless having uniform avatars without also restricting the signatures to be "total war" related as well.

As to the junior members rank, I've never been able to make up my mind on that one. But really I think it needs to be abolished for the good of the site. To the moderators (and ex moderators including myself) it may seem a great idea for the following reasons:

1) Spambots are restricted to certain forums, thus easier to track down.

2) Those of malintent that want to register alts to cheat at polls are hampered from doing so.

3) Flaming/bashing/trolling posts cannot be edited out / the user has to think about their post before they post it.

Cannot think of any more reasons offhand.

To challenge those points:

1) No longer an issue, in the past when JMs were restricted to only the entrance hall, this was worthwhile, nowadays when JMs can post almost anywhere and every spambot has a fetish for "Spartan Total Warrior" and any forum moderated by pevergreen it's irrelevant.

2) Still valid, but assumes every member is a "criminal". Basing how the forum runs around a few idiots is not worth inconveniencing everyone else for.

3) Also assumes that JMs are inherently not to be trusted and should be viewed with suspicion until they've proven themselves. Stopping a JM from editing is also pointless as anyone can make a mistake and have a hot headed moment that they later regret (I'm sure we've all been there?), it doesn't mean that they're immediately an undesirable that the .org can do without. The ability for a member to retract a bad post is important and saves a lot of work for mods. It also cuts down on double posts and is less frustrating for new members.

I think these changes would benefit the .org and it's members - given a chance - and would not be "turning it into TWC" (which I also oppose) or attracting the wrong kind of patron.

**Andres** · 03-31-2010, 15:13

Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

The abolition of the avatar restrictions make perfect sense. People like to be individuals, but the avatars here are anything but. It would be nice if a choice of avatars were available (I'm not referring to the URL avatars - they are only viewable by registered members and are an addtion to the default avatars). Opening up the avatar selection to allow users to upload their own would be well worth it.

I like the current avatar system. It makes me feel special