Site of famous battle

**Silence Hunter** · 03-05-2010, 18:43

Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus

They also disappear after a period of time, depending on how important and heroic it really was.

Are you sure that the reason why they disappear is the "importance" factor? I have read somewhere on these forums that they start disappearing once there is 50 markers on the map. So the 51st heroic marker dletes the 1st one and so on. If that's true it's possible to see markers disappearing often (a lot of Heroic battles fought) or stay there for the whole of campaign (quite small number of Heroic battles).

**Subotan** · 03-06-2010, 01:07

Originally Posted by Ludens

I was refering to the pre-made historical battles, not to the heroic-victory markers. I don't think you can even add those markers to the starting map.

Oh right, I misunderstood. And that's a shame.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 03-06-2010, 19:23

Originally Posted by Silence Hunter

Are you sure that the reason why they disappear is the "importance" factor? I have read somewhere on these forums that they start disappearing once there is 50 markers on the map. So the 51st heroic marker dletes the 1st one and so on. If that's true it's possible to see markers disappearing often (a lot of Heroic battles fought) or stay there for the whole of campaign (quite small number of Heroic battles).

The marker which I found undeserved (killing some random Eleutheroi with a BG and garrisson) disappeared earlier than the massive heroic victory against the AS.

~Fluvius

**Silence Hunter** · 03-06-2010, 20:00

Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus

The marker which I found undeserved (killing some random Eleutheroi with a BG and garrisson) disappeared earlier than the massive heroic victory against the AS.

~Fluvius

That clears things up.

**Alexokrat** · 03-09-2010, 01:09

I just recognized another reason for disappearing symbols for famous battles. I've build a fort on the place where the symbol was and after my army moved on it didn't came back. Its a marker which is just a few years old (I guess even just 3) and I think its impossible that the AI had so much famous battles in that time.

**Aemilius Paulus** · 03-09-2010, 21:57

Note - I was just reading all those nuggets of gold the CA Orgahs were spilling during the first years of RTW release on these forums. One of them said the marker is in a large part determined by the proportion of you participating army in the Heroic Victory battle and the total amount of soldiers you own.

**Ludens** · 03-10-2010, 12:03

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Note - I was just reading all those nuggets of gold the CA Orgahs were spilling during the first years of RTW release on these forums. One of them said the marker is in a large aprt determined by the proportion of you participating army in the Heroic Victory battle and the total amount of soldiers you own.

Sounds plausible. Do you have a link?

**Duguntz** · 03-10-2010, 16:14

Originally Posted by vartan

That's not cheating when odds are 20:1.

Well in fact, yes, it's still cheating! even great empire lost battles! so if you auto win just because you're absolutly sure to loose otherwhise, it's cheating! anyway... auto win, auto loose, nomatter the reason, it's still cheating! If you have to loose a battle, at least loose it with honor!

Originally Posted by vartan

I think 2,000 veteran troops should be able to take on one spear contingent =)

not if it's a unit of Duguntiz... :|

oh... sorry for the double post, wasn't intended

**Fluvius Camillus** · 01-07-2011, 18:15

I am necromancing this thread to prove an important aspect of famous battles.

The following battle was faction leader vs faction leader. This battle was very intense and saved my entire eastern border from Parthian invasion. It was right away the turning point in the campaign. As you can see this marker stood very long. While easier heroic victories disappeared along the way, not in chronological order.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

It may be a coincedence, but after I destroyed the Pahlavans (next turn), the marker finally disappeared. Maybe it also depends on the fact if the faction are still around.

~Fluvius

**vollorix** · 01-07-2011, 18:53

Who knows, i mean, if the engine counts the ammount of experience for each individual soldier there might be some other sophisticated features like the thing with famous battles. If yes, then CA makers seem to really pay attention to small details which i do apriciate a lot. Actually it makes a perfect sence: once a faction is destroyed, there is no real need to remember it anymore, nore the great deeds against an enemy, who is no longer there, i guess.

@FC: you love creating kind of "crazy monster empires", don´t you? :S

**QuintusSertorius** · 01-07-2011, 18:57

I always get them with every Heroic Victory, the AI does too. I thought they were guaranteed, but perhaps if size is a factor, that's because I'm playing on Huge unit scale.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 01-07-2011, 19:03

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

I always get them with every Heroic Victory, the AI does too. I thought they were guaranteed, but perhaps if size is a factor, that's because I'm playing on Huge unit scale.

I seem to think that also some kind of importance factor (yup it sounds weird), and how astonishing it was to actually win the battle.

@vollorix I certainly do! On to Hibernia!

~Fluvius