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    Default Re: Top Earners in America Pay Just 16% Income Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    and if you dont like, then leave. You can go to Sweden ad have a vacation and incredibly high tax rates.
    Don't you think I would have given the opportunity? Sweden is a bitch to get into if you're not part of the EU.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    and people who make their money from investment deserve it. They took a bigger risk than you probably ever will. And so do people who form a company.
    Of course it's high risk. That's why literally more than 99% of all business founders fail, and your stupid belief in the "self-made billionaire" is full of holes. You know how those people get rich? It's not because they make brilliant management decisions. They get there by hiring the best workers from college to do all that for them. The owners literally do nothing but sit back and profit from the labor of their subordinates.

    I'm not saying risk taking shouldn't be rewarded. I'm saying that pretending that people don't get to that top percentile through exploiting others' labor is foolish.

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    Default Re: Top Earners in America Pay Just 16% Income Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by jabarto View Post
    Of course it's high risk. That's why literally more than 99% of all business founders fail, and your stupid belief in the "self-made billionaire" is full of holes. You know how those people get rich? It's not because they make brilliant management decisions. They get there by hiring the best workers from college to do all that for them. The owners literally do nothing but sit back and profit from the labor of their subordinates.
    I'd like to see your source on that figure. There is a high percentage of business failures (a majority in fact), particularly in the first year or two, but I do not believe it is quite that high.

    As to hiring others to work for you, do you have a problem with the idea of informed consent? If they offer me X to do a particular job, it is my choice as to whether that's worth it to me or not. You make it sound as though all business owners are "buckra" getting their slavies to do everything while they polish their watch fob. I just dont' see it....
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    Default Re: Top Earners in America Pay Just 16% Income Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    As to hiring others to work for you, do you have a problem with the idea of informed consent? If they offer me X to do a particular job, it is my choice as to whether that's worth it to me or not. You make it sound as though all business owners are "buckra" getting their slavies to do everything while they polish their watch fob. I just dont' see it....
    I believe there is the perfect explanation to help you understand jabarto's points.
    Last edited by Beskar; 03-01-2010 at 06:19.
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