Preview: The Boii

[seienchin]

As for the Celtic voicemod, how different is Boii Celtic (if that's the term) compared to the sort that the Aedui/Averni or Lusotannan speak?

I think it says, that the celtic Voicemod while be different from the in Voicemod in EB so all the celtic tribes will have different names and voices. It also says that celtic is a reconstructed language so no way the Booi will have big difference to other celtic tribe in the voice.

[Bucefalo]

Thank you JMRC for explaining it, i´m excited to hear that it is possible to have two weapons, it should add a whole new level of realism, as many troops carried both weapons

Oh and also, now that you say it, i somehow forgot (silly me) to mention the guy blowing the celtic horn (carnyx), when i saw it i was like WOW it can´t be true! And started imagining how epic would look when the horn sound and the unit charge! Amazing attention to detail indeed.

Last question, thought it don´t have to do much with the boii per se. I was wondering why the late era Argoi stop using plumes or other celtic decoration in the helmets, i suppose it might have something to do with more efficiency at producing helmets in mass quantities. It´s curious because for the romans its pretty much the same, with the hastati/principes and the legionaries, they start with a lot of decoration in helmets (like other italian tribes like samnites) and end up with simpler ones with no plumes or other decoration. Quite interesting to say the least.

[machinor]

I guess practifcal reasons. If the surface of the helmet is round, any blows or slashes from baldes will "glide off".

Fantastic preview!! Keep 'em coming!

[Power2the1]

Last question, thought it don´t have to do much with the boii per se. I was wondering why the late era Argoi stop using plumes or other celtic decoration in the helmets, i suppose it might have something to do with more efficiency at producing helmets in mass quantities. It´s curious because for the romans its pretty much the same, with the hastati/principes and the legionaries, they start with a lot of decoration in helmets (like other italian tribes like samnites) and end up with simpler ones with no plumes or other decoration. Quite interesting to say the least.

Its not exactly known why the Celts did away with some of the more impressive helmets, at least I have not read a theory on why. Honestly the older helmets before 1c. B.C. helmets appear much more spectacular than the later Agen Port style helmets.

THIS IS WONDERFUL. Now the Sweboz are not alone, the Getai gets a new (un)friendly neighbour, and the horrible horrible Romans have more potential Romaioktonoi waiting to kill them.

As for the Celtic voicemod, how different is Boii Celtic (if that's the term) compared to the sort that the Aedui/Averni or Lusotannan speak?

In harmony what info Oudysseos mentioned, there is not enough attested Noric, or dialects of, to really give a certain picture on eastern Celtic, or at least what the Boii spoke. Chances are it remained rather close thorough the Celtic realms. Dialects are know, such as the Narbonensis (sp?) dialect of Gaulish which is rather well recorded, and shows some alternative ways to write and pronounce certain words. The Galatians must have had different words than what is noted in Gaulish, thousands of miles away, as a few words, writings, and the like from the east do not have a parallel in Gaulish dictionaries. Keep in mind that these dictionaries are not a couple pages, but hundreds of pages long and pretty extensive in the amount of terminology and variations of a word that are included form all over, not just France, but Britain, Wales, Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, the East, Austria, Celtiberian Spain, etc...

Fantastic! The Units look incredible and I cant wait to conquer northern italy with them or having them stop the sweboz Ki rushes^^
Still one of the parts I was happy to read the most was the part about celtic language, esspecially this:
First, and perhaps most important, Gaulish is primarily a reconstructed language. There are not enough surviving records of the language to become 100% certain on certain aspects
Many people taking the languages in EB so seriously, but I think you should not do that and appreciate the incredible hard work of the language reasearchers for what it is.

The language is the best part IMHO. Learning how these guys would have talked and some of the ways they said certain things is really interesting. I had to learn a bit of French to understand the dictionaries as all but one that are used are in French, but it was so worth it. I really hope that folks learn a bit form all this. The names used in the preview with the * denote a reconstruction that I used based on the terms.

[moonburn]

amazing work ^^ so the naked spearman and gaesatae will most likely be one of their units considering their regions map and the batle of telamon

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

will the boii be able to build 2nd tier mines or just the basic mines ? i mean if they can build 2nd tier mines considering their previledged position to take over the alps and the balkans they will be in no time a true superpower with all the metals coming from the balkans and the alps and thus the richest faction in the game in less then 60 turns for a decent general (and all of this without the need for trading ports nonetheless)

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

i got the boi right now lets see if the belgiums and the celtiberians will be included ^^ i suspect western europe will be one hell of a interesting place to be in only problem is that if the belgiums appear then the chattii won´t most likely

[Khazar_Dahvos]

great preview i had a feeling the boii would be included!!! Cant wait to see if another or two more new celtic factions are going to make an appearance!!!

[Glewas]

Noticed that the carnyx blower's helmet is a little odd:

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I think I've seen the "horn" part before in a text that I have buried away, but I did find something that is similar:

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I've not seen anything in regards to Celtic helmets with such a protrusion in the back however...

Can anyone share some info, or will that be part of an upcoming preview?

[Tux]

Noticed that the carnyx blower's helmet is a little odd:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I think I've seen the "horn" part before in a text that I have buried away, but I did find something that is similar:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Can anyone share some info, or will that be part of an upcoming preview?
I've not seen anything in regards to Celtic helmets with such a protrusion in the back however...

A little?! It's a freaking xenomorph with hundreds of matrioskas heads:


As a side not, that is not the carnyx for the boii which will feature a bull that has been done recently and it's the britsh carnyx that was used as a template. In conclusion each celtic faction will get they own carnyx.

[anubis88]

Well this helmets are really insane... Had i've not seen the evidence that they existed, i would think it's a vanilla thing :)

[MeinPanzer]

A little?! It's a freaking xenomorph with hundreds of matrioskas heads:


As a side not, that is not the carnyx for the boii which will feature a bull that has been done recently and it's the britsh carnyx that was used as a template. In conclusion each celtic faction will get they own carnyx.

So is this the helmet for all Celtic carnyx-players, or will the different factions get helmets with different decoration? Not to nitpick, but the Tintignac finds are unique to France, whereas something like the Ciumesti helmet might be more appropriate for an eastern-Celtic unit.

[bobbin]

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

Two cavalry units are shown in the preview.

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as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

see this.

Really just a little poetic license- a reference to the Hallstatt homeland of all Celtic material culture that the Boii remained close to. 'Empire' is a bit of an exaggeration but sounds cool, and it's not like the Irish or Scots never embellish stories in the telling...

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

Its debated a lot but little is known about the language, it was certainly Indo-European and the celts were the only indo-european tirbes in the area, it did have some noticable differences from celtic languages though.

[Knight of Ne]

Wow i have just read the preview and wow. We will finally get a faction to the north of italy and wow they look good. Thank you so much EB2 team, i think i have just fallen in love with the Boii.

Ne

[antisocialmunky]

Many wuvs 4 EB team.

[Power2the1]

amazing work ^^ so the naked spearman and gaesatae will most likely be one of their units considering their regions map and the batle of telamon

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

will the boii be able to build 2nd tier mines or just the basic mines ? i mean if they can build 2nd tier mines considering their previledged position to take over the alps and the balkans they will be in no time a true superpower with all the metals coming from the balkans and the alps and thus the richest faction in the game in less then 60 turns for a decent general (and all of this without the need for trading ports nonetheless)

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

i got the boi right now lets see if the belgiums and the celtiberians will be included ^^ i suspect western europe will be one hell of a interesting place to be in only problem is that if the belgiums appear then the chattii won´t most likely

There was 2 naked units in EB1. I think theres 3 in EB2 in different geographical locations as having 1 or 2 covering all locales wouldn't work. The Gaesatae and the ritual naked guys are included but under Gallicized names, as well as another one that will probably be shown in a future preview.

As mentioned previously, there are 2 cvalry units shown in the preview, but theres going to be plenty of Celtic cavalry in EB2. The Celts were famous for their cavalry and equestrian abilities, so this is certainly an emphasis for EB2. Right now I think there are 5 different types, heavy, medium, and light cavalry, split between Eastern and Western Celts. More to come though!

The Cel;tic invasion/expedition/migration in Greece was a success and a failure. It depends on how you look at it. They failed in conquering Greec, if that was their aim, but succeeded in coming away with a lot of treasure, if one thinks Delphi was looted and treasure taken away by the Textosages to southern Gaul. Still, this resulted in the Galatians entering the history of Anatolia and the merc activity of the east was certainly a success there.

As for what they will build, thats not been decided just yet

The Belgae will certainly be represented in EB2!

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

The Belgae will certainly be represented in EB2!

Interesting..

[jazstl]

Great work!

Thanks.