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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoushi View Post
    As for the KH.. I'll need to read a guide to play as them because no matter how many units I sell off, I always go broke instantly, get besieged by the Makedonians and can never afford to raise armies to defend myself, the nightmare scenario I invisioned when I first installed the mod...
    Have you tried my KH suggestions here?

    KH is tough if Macedon is determined to take Athens from you - all you can do if they seige it early is hope they either get bored and lift the seige, or assault the city and fail to take it. But your hoplites aren't too effective fighting on the walls, and if the Macedonians take a gate, then their heavy Companion cavalry is very hard to stop even with hoplites. The best chance you have is to block the streets in places where towers still under your control are shooting the enemy troops in the back as they attack you.

    If Athens falls, then things get very bad for KH. You might be able to retake it later if the Macedonians don't garrison it sufficiently, though - or put a spy in there and try to start a revolt. If all else fails and you lose Sparta as well, then, you'll have to 'emigrate'. Save enough of an army (if possible!) to go and take a rebel city somewhere else around the Mediterranean - Syracuse or Massilia would be best, although Empiron or Arse in Spain are alternatives. You'll also need a 'getaway fleet' to ship your surviving army elsewhere. Really, really try hard not to lose your family members in a hopeless seige or battle, because their bodyguards will regenerate no matter how badly in debt you are. So even if all your other troops are wiped out, you can still use your family members to conquer a new home from the Eleutheroi, somewhere far from the terrible Macedonian oppressors.

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    Making Money? With the Casse?
    I took my time and built up my port in my main settlement. Once I took Wessex and Mercia, they money started pouring in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato View Post
    Have you tried my KH suggestions here?

    KH is tough if Macedon is determined to take Athens from you - all you can do if they seige it early is hope they either get bored and lift the seige, or assault the city and fail to take it. But your hoplites aren't too effective fighting on the walls, and if the Macedonians take a gate, then their heavy Companion cavalry is very hard to stop even with hoplites. The best chance you have is to block the streets in places where towers still under your control are shooting the enemy troops in the back as they attack you.

    If Athens falls, then things get very bad for KH. You might be able to retake it later if the Macedonians don't garrison it sufficiently, though - or put a spy in there and try to start a revolt. If all else fails and you lose Sparta as well, then, you'll have to 'emigrate'. Save enough of an army (if possible!) to go and take a rebel city somewhere else around the Mediterranean - Syracuse or Massilia would be best, although Empiron or Arse in Spain are alternatives. You'll also need a 'getaway fleet' to ship your surviving army elsewhere. Really, really try hard not to lose your family members in a hopeless seige or battle, because their bodyguards will regenerate no matter how badly in debt you are. So even if all your other troops are wiped out, you can still use your family members to conquer a new home from the Eleutheroi, somewhere far from the terrible Macedonian oppressors.
    Not yet. When I started my KH game, my internet was down. I didn't realise it would be so difficult. I'm finding the stated difficulties for some of the campaigns to be not neccesarily accurate, at least not to my play style.

    I'll check your guide and possibly try again, though I think it may simply be a lot easier to play Epiros or Makedonia. The faction selection screen seems to imply they should all be relatively equal in terms of challenge.

    Casse seems to be one of the easier campaigns; they have lots of opportunity to expand at the expense of Eleutheroi, money is fairly easily made, virtually every units has projectiles, and they don't seem to need to conquer much territory to achieve victory.



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    KH has it tougher than Macedon or Epirus, because your starting army is both smaller and has less advanced units. Also the Macedonians have pike phalanxes and superb heavy cavalry that can smash though almost anything, even your elite Spartan bodyguards have trouble with them, while KH has no cavalry at all. Finally, AI Macedon can replace its losses in dead soldiers, whereas you, as KH in the early stages can't recruit anything because you're in debt, so only your FM bodyguards are replacing their losses.

    Casse is indeed very easy, as long as you get their economy running properly. Casse don't even need to blitz any cities to get their economy making a small profit, so you can just sit there and spend your money on new buildings for your capital. Also Casse get lots of new family members quite quickly, and six FMs make a formidable chariot-based army on their own, even without any infantry - enough to raid enemy towns and kill off more of their troops with each raid.

    I tend to regard Casse's victory condition as just to conquer all of Britain - once I've done that, Casse are so powerful that's it's really not much of a challenge to invade Gaul, because they are so rich by then that they can afford unlimited mercenaries. Casse have everything they could possibly want right there in the home islands.

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