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    I think Scato's just trying to be "in character" for a Roman. I agree that Greeks could play the callous game as well, although Romans definitely took it to a new level. -M
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    Well, I took his advice when assaulting Bolonia,a nd lost 1100 of my 1600 men, my general barely escaping alive, and was forced to starve the settlement out (I figured they would sally forth, but I suppose my rebuilt army was too large)

    I leanred my lessons at Patavia, I punched three holes in their walls, sent most of my force toward one to lure them into engaging, sent my cavalry and hastati around through the other two, effectively hammer and anviled them, broke their army with minimal casualties, then as I stormed their town square.... crash to desktop.

    Well, maybe this will be a good excuse to intall the mini mods and try a different faction. It was a big bummer though. Are there any ways to minimize CTDs?



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    Some after-battle-ctd's are triggered by closing too fast the 'battle result-tab'. Especially when the fighting involved numerous soldiers, your pc needs some time to calculate everything towards the campaign map: give it some time. Waiting ten seconds after a battle usually does the trick. If that wasn't the reason why you experienced your ctd, then the AI hating your blatant victories is. :) Besides: you did set autosave on 'each turn', right?

    About different factions: go ahead and experience some more pyrrhic victories. You may also want to increase difficulty levels.
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    It was the Battle Result tab opening that caused the crash, I think. They had their last unit in the public square, and my army was pressing upon it from both sides, firing missiles. Just as my cavalry charged in from one side, and my Princepes from the other, the game crashed.

    Also, I was surprised at just how effective starving them out was. If I play as Rome again, I think I'll do more of that when attacking Northern Italy. Why waste thousands and thousands of mnai raising new armies, when I can spend the money developing infrastructure and economy?

    @Andy: I'm pretty satisfied playing on medium, for now. I seem to make it hard enough for myself as it is. :)



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    Well, I started new games as the Casse and Koinon Hellenon. With the Casse I've been taking my time, building my economy and taking England piece by piece. It's already 257 B.C. and I'm getting ready to take Wales, though it looks like it'll be a bloody encounter. I'm making thousands of mnai a turn, though, so captured settlements get rebuilt quickly saving up for three turns can get me a 6000+ mnai improvement started and I have my first triple chevroned unit (a lowly Imannae).

    As for the KH.. I'll need to read a guide to play as them because no matter how many units I sell off, I always go broke instantly, get besieged by the Makedonians and can never afford to raise armies to defend myself, the nightmare scenario I invisioned when I first installed the mod...



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    Making Money? With the Casse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Making Money? With the Casse?
    All settlements in Britain have a port and the land is fertile. Once the Casse take the British islands, they're swimming in money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoushi View Post
    As for the KH.. I'll need to read a guide to play as them because no matter how many units I sell off, I always go broke instantly, get besieged by the Makedonians and can never afford to raise armies to defend myself, the nightmare scenario I invisioned when I first installed the mod...
    Have you tried my KH suggestions here?

    KH is tough if Macedon is determined to take Athens from you - all you can do if they seige it early is hope they either get bored and lift the seige, or assault the city and fail to take it. But your hoplites aren't too effective fighting on the walls, and if the Macedonians take a gate, then their heavy Companion cavalry is very hard to stop even with hoplites. The best chance you have is to block the streets in places where towers still under your control are shooting the enemy troops in the back as they attack you.

    If Athens falls, then things get very bad for KH. You might be able to retake it later if the Macedonians don't garrison it sufficiently, though - or put a spy in there and try to start a revolt. If all else fails and you lose Sparta as well, then, you'll have to 'emigrate'. Save enough of an army (if possible!) to go and take a rebel city somewhere else around the Mediterranean - Syracuse or Massilia would be best, although Empiron or Arse in Spain are alternatives. You'll also need a 'getaway fleet' to ship your surviving army elsewhere. Really, really try hard not to lose your family members in a hopeless seige or battle, because their bodyguards will regenerate no matter how badly in debt you are. So even if all your other troops are wiped out, you can still use your family members to conquer a new home from the Eleutheroi, somewhere far from the terrible Macedonian oppressors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Making Money? With the Casse?
    I took my time and built up my port in my main settlement. Once I took Wessex and Mercia, they money started pouring in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato View Post
    Have you tried my KH suggestions here?

    KH is tough if Macedon is determined to take Athens from you - all you can do if they seige it early is hope they either get bored and lift the seige, or assault the city and fail to take it. But your hoplites aren't too effective fighting on the walls, and if the Macedonians take a gate, then their heavy Companion cavalry is very hard to stop even with hoplites. The best chance you have is to block the streets in places where towers still under your control are shooting the enemy troops in the back as they attack you.

    If Athens falls, then things get very bad for KH. You might be able to retake it later if the Macedonians don't garrison it sufficiently, though - or put a spy in there and try to start a revolt. If all else fails and you lose Sparta as well, then, you'll have to 'emigrate'. Save enough of an army (if possible!) to go and take a rebel city somewhere else around the Mediterranean - Syracuse or Massilia would be best, although Empiron or Arse in Spain are alternatives. You'll also need a 'getaway fleet' to ship your surviving army elsewhere. Really, really try hard not to lose your family members in a hopeless seige or battle, because their bodyguards will regenerate no matter how badly in debt you are. So even if all your other troops are wiped out, you can still use your family members to conquer a new home from the Eleutheroi, somewhere far from the terrible Macedonian oppressors.
    Not yet. When I started my KH game, my internet was down. I didn't realise it would be so difficult. I'm finding the stated difficulties for some of the campaigns to be not neccesarily accurate, at least not to my play style.

    I'll check your guide and possibly try again, though I think it may simply be a lot easier to play Epiros or Makedonia. The faction selection screen seems to imply they should all be relatively equal in terms of challenge.

    Casse seems to be one of the easier campaigns; they have lots of opportunity to expand at the expense of Eleutheroi, money is fairly easily made, virtually every units has projectiles, and they don't seem to need to conquer much territory to achieve victory.



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    Bononia is always hard because of the elite Gestatae naked warriors - better than anything early Rome has, man for man. Gallic cavalry is also better than Roman.

    The average Roman unit is better than the average Gallic unit, but the BEST Gallic units are better than the best Roman units.

    Rome's greatest strength is not her ability to win every single battle - she doesn't. Her greatest strength is her ability to just never accept defeat, and win every single WAR as a result. When defeated, Rome just builds and sends another army. And, if necessary, a third and a fourth! Victory at any cost!

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