BF:BC 2

[Vuk]

So, has anyone played it? If so, give us a review!

[pevergreen]

Will do later today, picking my copy up soon.

Played for a bit.

Choice of weapons for MP is great, plently of stuff. Think Battlefield 2 but with a bunch more and better graphics.

If you wanted pure DM type stuff, go with MW2 though, only benefit this game has is the Conquest mode.

[Vuk]

Will do later today, picking my copy up soon.

Played for a bit.

Choice of weapons for MP is great, plently of stuff. Think Battlefield 2 but with a bunch more and better graphics.

If you wanted pure DM type stuff, go with MW2 though, only benefit this game has is the Conquest mode.

lol, silly pever! You know that I cannot do MP with my connection! How is the SP?!

[pevergreen]

I didnt know that >_>


Single Player so far: Bad story, unlikeable characters. Apparently only gets worse.

If you want Single Player, definately go for MW2...unless you already have that, in which case, save your money.

[Vuk]

I didnt know that >_>


Single Player so far: Bad story, unlikeable characters. Apparently only gets worse.

If you want Single Player, definately go for MW2...unless you already have that, in which case, save your money.

Is the singleplayer anything like the original BF: BC? I really liked what they did in the first one, so I hope that they did not change that.

[pevergreen]

Never seen/touched/played the first BC, so no idea.

[Kekvit Irae]

Is the singleplayer anything like the original BF: BC? I really liked what they did in the first one, so I hope that they did not change that.

Health injectors are completely done away with. Instead, it reverts to the lame Call of Duty style of health regeneration.

[Fragony]

Demo is great fun, but for some reason I am having a real hard time with it, in World at War I end up being DA MASTER most of the time but these guys slap me around like it's nothing, just mob me up and throw me in a bucket, thx. But the look and feel of the game is great, especially the graphics are spectacular, really sharp and clean even on my ancient tv. Who is -playing/thinking of getting it- on the PS3

[Kekvit Irae]

Demo is great fun, but for some reason I am having a real hard time with it, in World at War I end up being DA MASTER most of the time but these guys slap me around like it's nothing, just mob me up and throw me in a bucket, thx. But the look and feel of the game is great, especially the graphics are spectacular, really sharp and clean even on my ancient tv. Who is -playing/thinking of getting it- on the PS3

I'm currently playing it, and here are my thoughts:

I didn't know anything could be worse than MW2... but BF:BC2 is. CoD Health regeneration, the same BS building destruction from BC1 returns (EA, take a hint from Red Faction: Guerilla and make FOUNDATIONS and CORNERS destructable), checkpoints are so sparse that if you die, you lose a good five minutes of gameplay, loading times each time you die take about ten to fifteen seconds (and you will die, A LOT), less humor than BC1, the gunfire and explosion echos drown out everything, etc, etc, etc...
The only thing that saves this game are the vehicles... and only barely.

[edyzmedieval]

And I wanted to get it for PC...

I hope that there's some good reviews before the Deluxe Version goes out of sale - a.k.a. 16th of march because I'm getting it on Steam.

[Fragony]

I'm currently playing it, and here are my thoughts:

I didn't know anything could be worse than MW2... but BF:BC2 is. CoD Health regeneration, the same BS building destruction from BC1 returns (EA, take a hint from Red Faction: Guerilla and make FOUNDATIONS and CORNERS destructable), checkpoints are so sparse that if you die, you lose a good five minutes of gameplay, loading times each time you die take about ten to fifteen seconds (and you will die, A LOT), less humor than BC1, the gunfire and explosion echos drown out everything, etc, etc, etc...
The only thing that saves this game are the vehicles... and only barely.

I don't care about the story-mode mind you, I doubt I will even try the campaign. The demo is loads of fun and I want a new shooter. World at War is starting to get old and it's annoying how they force upon you their map-pack, and I am not so sure MW2 is my thing, everybody loves Modern Warfare but me it seems, I miss the 'war is hell and you are in it' approach in the campaign and the WW2 weapons are just more fun. Love the bayonette *schwob* so gruesome hehe.

[Husar]

I got it for PC, only played some MP so far, can be hard to get a connection but so far I like it.
It has the auto-regeneration but it takes longer than in MW2 and reviwers actually mentioned that as a good point, like getting up to shooter standards of today, so it's obvious why they made that. May post more after exploring more of it.

[Kekvit Irae]

I don't care about the story-mode mind you, I doubt I will even try the campaign.

Let me guess... you're one of those people who only buy games for the multiplayer. Am I right?

[pevergreen]

Let me guess... you're one of those people who only buy games for the multiplayer. Am I right?

In the battlefield series, I don't see how that is a bad thing.

You wouldn't buy BF2 or BF2142 for the single player.

[Fragony]

Let me guess... you're one of those people who only buy games for the multiplayer. Am I right?

Some, Call of Duty being one of them, I never even bothered with the single-player of Rogue Spear, and I have played it for years. Who is playing battlefield for the campaign anyway (but you). I got the console for single play, I just prefer it. PC gaming is so hectic, everybody's jumping.

[Husar]

In the battlefield series, I don't see how that is a bad thing.

You wouldn't buy BF2 or BF2142 for the single player.

Bad company introduced a Campaign though and it's about 50-50 now, as most games should be IMO, offer something for everybody.
Played a bit more in the last few hours and I'm starting to like it more.

[Vuk]

In the battlefield series, I don't see how that is a bad thing.

You wouldn't buy BF2 or BF2142 for the single player.

Actually I bought both for just SP and they are still among my favorite games.
I am not too impressed with the reviews for BC 2.

[Kekvit Irae]

All I can say about multiplayer is HOLY CRAP!
After getting my butt handed to me as Assault, I switched to Medic, and in 90% of the games I have played (and I've been playing since yesterday), I have gotten the Ace Pin (top scoring player in the round) nearly every single time. By a HUGE margin. I'm not kidding either. I usually average around 1500 points a round. My playtime is only 2h 36m and my squad score is 2130 (as opposed to the average 200-700 around me).
My theory is people just don't know how to play medics. You see someone wounded? You drop a medikit. You see someone dead? You defib them. It's not that freaking hard, and yet I'm the only one (in full servers, no less) to get top scores by at least a 500 to 750 margin.

And I suck at PS3 shooter multiplayer. Go figure.

[Husar]

Actually I bought both for just SP and they are still among my favorite games.
I am not too impressed with the reviews for BC 2.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/plat...=bad%20company

I don't really see any really bad reviews there.

And Kekvit, isn't it nice to know that this game rewards teamplay?

[Kekvit Irae]

And Kekvit, isn't it nice to know that this game rewards teamplay?

As a BF1942 and BF2 veteran, I have to say that it wouldn't be a Battlefield game without teamwork.

[Vuk]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/plat...=bad%20company

I don't really see any really bad reviews there.

And Kekvit, isn't it nice to know that this game rewards teamplay?

I meant the reviews that people on this forum have been giving it. Regenerating health? WTF? The instaheal needle thing from the first one was a bad enough console over simplification, but regenerating health? Is this a Battlefield game or Kingdom Hearts? Why the #$%^ do they have to %^*(#$ over#@*$#simplify good PC games for %*&(#$*#$# consoles!! Consoles are ideal for games like Mario and PoP, and I would much rather play either on a console than a PC. But serious shooter games is where PCs excel, so why the heck do they try to make a serious shooter on a console?!
They gameplay in BC was a blooming chore! It was hard to do and unsatisfying. The only thing that made me enjoy it was the good characters and destruction. The gameplay in BC2 sounds even worse!

*breathes deeply*

Sorry 'bout the rant, but there goes another one of my favorite franchises.

[Secura]

Health injectors are completely done away with. Instead, it reverts to the lame Call of Duty style of health regeneration.

It's ironic because more and more games are leaning towards the CoD style of health.

Recently, Peter Molyneux stated that the health bars (among other things) of Fable III had been dropped in favour of the damage being more noticeable to the player. He said the screen would increase in red hues as you drew closer to death, and would return to normal over time; it's hoped that this immerses the player further in the game.

Since when did this become the de facto means of health management? :<

[Azathoth]

I don't see why regeneration is getting so much flak for being overly simplistic. It's no worse than health packs, anyway. In 5 or 10 years a new system willl replace it, just in time for the first serious immersive virtual reality consoles.

[Husar]

Uhm, someone is missing the point here, and a bit more.
First off I don't have any problems with "serious" shooters on a console, really serious ones like ARMA probably have too many controls anyway.

Secondly, you seem to have missed out Battlefield: bad Company, which was console exclusive, the Bad Company Battlefields are not a serious shooter continuation of battlefield 2 and I thought that was pretty clear, instead it's a more humorous take on shooters(although not as humorous as Battlefield Heroes, try that if you want to complain about BF becoming unrealistic ) and it also introduced a single player campaign, if you expect Bad company 2 to be a "serious" save-the-world-from-the-evil-bad-people-with-bad-weapons/nukes-MW2-like-shooter then you will get disappointed. enemies are bullet sponges but I actually appreciate that after playing MW2 where you don't have vehicles but the G18 akimbo(which isn't very realistic in the first place) turns anyone into a walking Wirbelwind(that's the WW2 tank, try CoH for reference). Well, I'm not claiming it's for the realism freak but then neither are DICE afaik.

And there are still medics, and once the critical blood splatter goes away your screen corners stay red for quite a while before you are fully regenerated, a lot of time for a medic to help you for example, or an enemy to shoot you. It's not the instant regeneration after 5 secs that MW2 has.

So yeah, if you're looking for a realistic shooter, try Arma 2 or something, but Bad Company isn't that kinda game, never was and never wanted to be. IIRC there is a Battlefield 3 in the works, sort of indicating that Bad Company is a bit of an offshoot of the original BF series.

[Hooahguy]

i plan on getting this game. my old clan, L13, is getting back together, so i thought id pick up a copy and join in

[Husar]

If anybody wants to add me on the PC, my nick is the same as here.

[Hooahguy]

im on the 4th mission, and it plays pretty well. i get some lag, mainly on the jungle levels, but thats really it.
which is surprising because people told me it would be laggy all the time.

on to gameplay:
its very much like cod4, but i will say this:
the sound immersion is EPIC.
nothing compares to it.
i also love the destructable enviroments.

[Husar]

on to gameplay:
its very much like cod4,

Not that I don't like CoD, but I never found the gameplay all that similar apart from both being shooters.
Especially in multiplayer (Rush, that is, not Conquest) you get a lot more teamwork, people take cover behind things, you get firefights etc., not rambos running frantically all around the place killing people left and right.
Of course you also get attacking teams consisting to 50% of snipers that will hardly even take the first base or medics that revive you in front of 4 enemies, but it certainly has some really great moments IMO and there is a lot more teamwork to be seen simply because you get points for it.
And the singleplayer of the first was a lot more humorous, still haven't started this one's yet as I am busy with the MP and wanted to finish the MW2 SP first which I still haven't done.

[edyzmedieval]

So the question that is on my mind...

Is it worth it the 50 euros?

Pease reply fast, I want to get the Limited Edition by March 16.

[Hooahguy]

depends: do you like multiplayer?
without MP, the game is way overpriced.

anyhow, i do love how the game rips on MW2, like making references how heartbeat sensors and snowmobles are wimpy.
good times, good times.

by the way Husar, i when i compared BC2 to cod4 i meant in the single player.
the MP is of course way different, which is why i racked up over 160 hours in BF2142 and only 39 hours of cod4 MP.