that's some wierd stuff.

**Ibrahim** · 03-04-2010, 09:17

just yesterday, I had the wierdest dreams EVER:

the first dream was when I was flirting openly with a girl from speech class who happened to be next to me, while attending a geology club. and oddly, the girl took a liking to it-so did the members. they were cheering me on, and she was laughing and smiling. I myself don't remember what I said, only that she took a liking to it. there was no kissing, sex, or anything-just words.
I find it disturbing, as I don't really give a damn about girls-haven't since Alyssa (see my sig)-that and I still don't care, even after this wierd scene..

the second one was when I was meeting with another Arab in the aftermath of an alien attack on a spaceship by a giant halo-esque style grey robot (I know, I know..), in the suburbs of what I can only assume to be ft.Collins-where I currently live and study. As I reached the address' patio which had a roof to it, and walls on the sides, the ground gave way (the pit was bottomless from the looks of it), and I jumped up to grap hold of some beam. I couldn't jump back because it was too far, and I couldn't go to the sides or front ecause there was too little room.
knowing he was an arab, I screamed for help in Arabic-no response. I scream for 15 minutes, until I switch to english. finally, the man comes out, gives me a hand, and leads in inside. on being asked why he didn't help initially, he answered: "I'm from Algeria-I didn't understand your dialect of Arabic." the dream ended with him just starting to debrief me about the Alien menace.

oh, did I mention that there were rage monkeys in dream 2, when the spaceship is attacked?

seriously, I must e losing it.

**Fragony** · 03-04-2010, 09:58

Dreams are the pressure valve of the mind, hate to bring it to you but you are perfectly sane.

**CountArach** · 03-04-2010, 10:12

Crazy dreams are one of the few things that keep me sane.

**Ibrahim** · 03-04-2010, 18:35

Originally Posted by Fragony

Dreams are the pressure valve of the mind, hate to bring it to you but you are perfectly sane.

don't hate that-that's good news.

but what I really want to know is: does it have any meaning? what does it say about the state of my sub-conscience?

**Centurion1** · 03-04-2010, 22:26

you are interested in this girl perhaps not sexually but you want to get to know her.

and you are wondering about arabs i guess.

do algerians count as arabs?

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-04-2010, 23:22

Originally Posted by Centurion1

do algerians count as arabs?

Arabs and Berber (a collection of diffrent indigenous people) are the largest ethnic groups, not sure which is the largest group of the two.

**Centurion1** · 03-04-2010, 23:23

Arabic or Berber, not sure which is the largest group of the two.

but dont arabs have to come from the arabian peninsula. i would think berber then.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-04-2010, 23:39

Originally Posted by Centurion1

but dont arabs have to come from the arabian peninsula. i would think berber then.

After searching teh internetz for info I found this

According to wikipedia the Algerian population is circa 33 millions and the berber population consist of 4 millions.

Not sure how much I trust wikipedia on this one though.

**Samurai Waki** · 03-05-2010, 00:58

North Africans are typically closer related to Berbers than Arabs, but they are two sides of the same coin.

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2010, 01:28

Originally Posted by Centurion1

but dont arabs have to come from the arabian peninsula. i would think berber then.

the people along the coast a mix of Arabs, settlers from other areas, and berbers. the desert is purely Berber territory. the reason that is so is because the Arabs settled in the cities after they had conquered them. they even founded a few: Qayruwan, in Tunis, and Tunis city itself, are both Arab in origin. they also settled in Lybia, Tunis, morocco, Mauritania, western sahara, and even Spain, siciliy, and malta (hence the language known as maltese). but it is worth pointing out that they were never the majority-just a minority that influenced their neighbors.

as a result, Algerians do speak arabic-allbeit a dialect that is unintelligeable to me (my dialect is a levantine one). and no, you don't have to be from the peninsula. I'm considered an Arab, since I'm descended from Arabs who, if I get my grandparents, settled in northern Iraq, and later Palestine/Israel. they also mentioned that the founder of my family, Zallum, fought in Saladin's Army. there is also a place in Saudi Arabia with that name.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 01:40

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

the people along the coast a mix of Arabs, settlers from other areas, and berbers. the desert is purely Berber territory. the reason that is so is because the Arabs settled in the cities after they had conquered them. they even founded a few: Qayruwan, in Tunis, and Tunis city itself, are both Arab in origin. they also settled in Lybia, Tunis, morocco, Mauritania, western sahara, and even Spain, siciliy, and malta (hence the language known as maltese). but it is worth pointing out that they were never the majority-just a minority that influenced their neighbors.

as a result, Algerians do speak arabic-allbeit a dialect that is unintelligeable to me (my dialect is a levantine one).

They also have a lot of french loanwords, which of course makes it more complicated to understand.
BTW you can trace your linage to the middle ages?! You're a lucky one.

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:05

not as strange as dreaming you are playing a level in Crysis then all of a sudden all the KPA enemies turn into zombies that wont die.
freaky stuff.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:09

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

not as strange as dreaming you are playing a level in Crysis then all of a sudden all the KPA enemies turn into zombies that wont die.
freaky stuff.

Ja det låter bra underligt det du.

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:18

english?

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:22

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

english?

Oh sorry, I thought you were swedish because of your sig.

I basically said that I agreed that your dream was trippy

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:25

nope, not swedish, i just play Sweden in ETW-DM.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:27

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

nope, not swedish, i just play Sweden in ETW-DM.

Okay.

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2010, 05:58

Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons

They also have a lot of french loanwords, which of course makes it more complicated to understand.
BTW you can trace your linage to the middle ages?! You're a lucky one.

yes and no- yes, I can't understnd a word out of anyone west of Benghazi (and vice versa). and between the nile and Benghazi, its kinda hard to understand. Maltese is in fact easier to understand than western arabic dialects. but no, its not because of french; my dialect has many french words, as does Algerian (grafe/grafa, salon, telefon, tilfesion, taxi, beskalet*, balkone , etc, all came from french. yes, even taxi). its actually because of berber influence. in berber languages, they tend to shorten, or drop some vowels in arabic, so ikbeer (big) in leventine is kbir in moroccan. the results can be a bit messy...

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

*from french for bicycle.

@ Hooahguy: woe, that's even stranger stuff.

**Fragony** · 03-05-2010, 06:21

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

don't hate that-that's good news.

but what I really want to know is: does it have any meaning? what does it say about the state of my sub-conscience?

As I said you are sane, you realize that women are from outer space and can't be ~~thrusted~~ trusted

**Samurai Waki** · 03-05-2010, 06:41

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

The furthest back I could trace my origins was to some German farmers in the Ukraine, and to some northern irish dissidents sick of being blow'd up by the IRA. I'd say you're pretty lucky that you even have an idea of your origins.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 13:34

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

yes and no- yes, I can't understnd a word out of anyone west of Benghazi (and vice versa). and between the nile and Benghazi, its kinda hard to understand. Maltese is in fact easier to understand than western arabic dialects. but no, its not because of french; my dialect has many french words, as does Algerian (grafe/grafa, salon, telefon, tilfesion, taxi, beskalet*, balkone , etc, all came from french. yes, even taxi). its actually because of berber influence. in berber languages, they tend to shorten, or drop some vowels in arabic, so ikbeer (big) in leventine is kbir in moroccan. the results can be a bit messy...

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

*from french for bicycle.

@ Hooahguy: woe, that's even stranger stuff.

Ah.. Interesting, I thought the Algeria had more french loanwords due to being colonized by the french, turns out it wasn't like that.

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2010, 21:46

Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons

Ah.. Interesting, I thought the Algeria had more french loanwords due to being colonized by the french, turns out it wasn't like that.

it does, but as I said, it itself is not a hinderence, as many of these words are also in levantine arabic. its mostly-as I said-down to pronunciation.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 22:01

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

it does, but as I said, it itself is not a hinderence, as many of these words are also in levantine arabic. its mostly-as I said-down to pronunciation.

Alright.

**Centurion1** · 03-05-2010, 22:36

among other things (many other things) my father says we are normans from 1066 and when the queen tries to knight him he will turn her down to show support for his irish brethern.

yes....... hes joking we are Norman-French however.

as well as Croatian, Greek, Chinese, Russian, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English, Lithuanian, "Russian Jewish" Canadian (falls with french really) i think thats everything........

yeah americas a melting pot alrighty.

i identify with only a few of those places though as other amounts are minuscule. It annoys me when so many americans wonder whether they were royalty in Europe. No dumb *** you would never have come to america if you were rich. The closest we are to famous is my fathers delusions and the likelihood of being a second son of some petty lord in Ireland (if my name is right)

i am proud of my heritage.

**Strike For The South** · 03-05-2010, 23:30

Portsmouth, England 1567. That's the farthest I can trace my family back.

We were weavers apparntley

**Furunculus** · 03-06-2010, 00:28

i have a friend who told me about an amazing dream he had; he was a transformer who transformed himself into a fridge.

his relating of the crushing disappointment when he realised he couldn't move is one of the funniest things i have ever heard!

**Fragony** · 03-06-2010, 10:26

Originally Posted by Furunculus

i have a friend who told me about an amazing dream he had; he was a transformer who transformed himself into a fridge.

his relating of the crushing disappointment when he realised he couldn't move is one of the funniest things i have ever heard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma_Cwh9VW1E

**naut** · 03-06-2010, 18:30

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Portsmouth, England 1567. That's the farthest I can trace my family back.

We were weavers apparntley

1102 Yorkshire, a young burgher called John Smalley. The Doomsday book is an awesome artifact.

**Ibrahim** · 03-07-2010, 01:03

ok, things got really wierd. and I mean literally wierd, as in real life, while awake:

I got a letter, probably a practical joke, with this written (complete with misspelles). it was under my door sill, and came with a lump of Chocolate:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

on the opposite side, it has a picture of a bunny-horse-guy thingy, saying "RiSe AND SHiNE IBE!, and near that thingy, there is a picture of a cresent moon with a guy holding a fishing line, pulling up a fish he somehow managed to pull up from Earth.

lastly, on a corner of the darn paper, it has two columns: the first reads:

FRESH
FISH!
UNO(?)
Vo

the second? it reads this:

EGGS
ToaST
Tea

**Centurion1** · 03-07-2010, 01:08

uh how good looking are you, totally objective of course. because it appears you have a stalker.

and i would avoid that chocolate

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