Departed Dethy Mafia II [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

What would you do in Secura's shoes?

I wasn't paying close attention to this game, so I don't know.

I know there's a solution to the Dethy game which is easily found online, which renders the game nearly impossible for the mafia to win even with perfect play. And, it would require perfect play to even have a shot at it. IMO the game is imbalanced when people know the solution.

In my casual observation, Sasaki was doing everything, and I mean literally everything, I would have done to escape death as mafia. His last minute switch to Double A is something I would have tried to do to get Secura's favor, because it's not an intuitive move for a scum to do. That's the entire point.

It was either him or Double A, but Sasaki seemed to put up more of a fight and he definitely tried to influence Secura more than Double A did. That doesn't always indicate scum, but it does indicate that he felt powerless in the final round and needed additional support.

However Double A wasn't impressing me at all. it was a very close choice.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think this game doesn't follow the dethy model. In the game that turned up when I googled it, they got a Night zero investigation (the mafia couldn't kill that night). In this game it's basically useless, as I said day one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd have to work it out on paper, but the last two Dethy games I was in, the town won, and in the second one we did it the "proper" way with investigations instead of blind lynches. And there was a Night One murder in that game, so I believe it is still very possible. I've never seen it done with a night zero investigation before.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'd have to work it out on paper, but the last two Dethy games I was in, the town won, and in the second one we did it the "proper" way with investigations instead of blind lynches. And there was a Night One murder in that game, so I believe it is still very possible. I've never seen it done with a night zero investigation before.

According to this:

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index....Dethy/Analysis

Cop head start is usually assumed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

According to this:

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index....Dethy/Analysis

Cop head start is usually assumed.

Hmmm interesting.

I've never played it that way before. That seems even more game-breaking than the setup I've played.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmmm interesting.

I've never played it that way before. That seems even more game-breaking than the setup I've played.

It seems like this setup isn't game breaking though.

If you lynch twice, base probability of town win is 53%. If you do investigations and clear one person, or if two people are contradicting each other somehow, the base percentage for town win is 50%. If you don't do either, it's 33%.

Since there are only 7 results, 2 of them fake, it doesn't seem probable that anything conclusive will be found.

[johnhughthom]

I wasn't paying close attention to this game, so I don't know.

What is close attention? A 200 page notebook filled with notes on the game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What is close attention? A 200 page notebook filled with notes on the game?

no, but it might have been a page or two.