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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    wait do you always call soda fizzes.......?
    Heh, doublepost


    Anyhow, yes, why did you notice that I called soda pop fizzes?
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    and i barely watch what i eat just alot of protein and alot of carbs like pasta.
    No normal teen male needs to watch what he/she eats - we are very slow to gain weight, and burn through calories, sugars, carbohydrates and fats very swiftly. Of course, this will change, by our thirties and especially forties.

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    Heh, doublepost


    Anyhow, yes, why did you notice that I called soda pop fizzes?
    oops. ive never heard that before. i always hear soda. is it a russian thing or a southern thing i dont remember it when i lived in Pensacola.

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    oops. ive never heard that before. i always hear soda. is it a russian thing or a southern thing i dont remember it when i lived in Pensacola.
    Dunno, I wiki-ed it, and the closest to 'fizzes' I found was what the Brits call it - 'fizzy drinks'. Strangely enough, I did not find the word 'fizzes' though.

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    Dunno, I wiki-ed it, and the closest to 'fizzes' I found was what the Brits call it - 'fizzy drinks'. Strangely enough, I did not find the word 'fizzes' though.
    must be cyborg talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    must be cyborg talk.
    ?

    Why cyborg out of all the things you could call me? A cyborg is a human with some mechanical parts/other electronics implanted. The brain is still human. You should have called me android or something...


    Anyhow, the word 'fizzes' does exist, but I believe it is quite outdated and it was not even widespread in its time. Hehe, I sometimes have my teachers/professors tell me that I say words/turns of phrases/idioms/slang they had never heard since their childhood or early adulthood . Well, I suppose that comes from the historical books I read .

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    We are all cyborgs. We become one with technology such as mobile phones becoming extensions of ourselves to communicate with others, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Anyhow, yes, why did you notice that I called soda pop fizzes?
    That's fascinating. Soft drinks are one of the things used in sociolinguistics to help identify dialect boundaries. In part of the US, they're 'soda'; in another part, 'pop'; in still another, 'coke' (regardless of what brand it is). I've never before heard of them being called 'fizzes'. Do your family/neighbors/anyone else of close acquaintance use the term as well, or is it a personal idiosyncrasy?

    For what it's worth, I have a hard time determining which term we'd use back in Utah. I think we may be close to the dividing line between 'soda' and 'pop', though I haven't looked at the map for it for some time. In my experience we'd usually just call them 'drinks', especially since we weren't already using the term for alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaxfetish View Post
    That's fascinating. Soft drinks are one of the things used in sociolinguistics to help identify dialect boundaries. In part of the US, they're 'soda'; in another part, 'pop'; in still another, 'coke' (regardless of what brand it is). I've never before heard of them being called 'fizzes'. Do your family/neighbors/anyone else of close acquaintance use the term as well, or is it a personal idiosyncrasy?
    That is true, the soft drinks are called all sorts of names. And yeah, down here in the South, the less cosmopolitan folk do indeed refer to any sort of a soft drink as 'coke'. As for the 'fizzes' I would say that came from the books I have read. No-one else uses it, AFAIK, but as I said, this term did exist in the past. I personally prefer it, and so I use it.

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    In the UK, the old people call it either fizzy drinks or pop. They don't call it soda (as that is a certain drink, unless you want a cream soda for instance), they don't call it coke (unless it is coca-cola/pepsi, etc), etc.

    Everyone below the age of 30, except children just uses the brand-name. So Diet Coke/Coca-cola, Pepsi Max, Dr. Pepper, Sprite, j20, schweppes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaxfetish View Post
    'coke' (regardless of what brand it is).
    Does that mean that I may ask for a coke coke?
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    At all depends heavily on how long you keep it up. Fat is the last thing to go because fat isn't very efficient fuel for your body. Therefore it heavily depends on how much of your diet you burn up, how much reserves you had to begin with, and how long your diet lasts.
    Another factor is type of exercise. Jogging/walking won't burn much fat, mostly glucose in the blood and muscle mass. Weights and sprints increase metabolism for 24 hours following the exercise, thus you burn fat.
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    ?

    Why cyborg out of all the things you could call me? A cyborg is a human with some mechanical parts/other electronics implanted. The brain is still human. You should have called me android or something...
    well certain parts of you must be cyborg to feel nothing.............

    this is all very fasciating to be honest.

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    Does that mean that I may ask for a coke coke?
    I wouldn't try that in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Dunno, I wiki-ed it, and the closest to 'fizzes' I found was what the Brits call it - 'fizzy drinks'. Strangely enough, I did not find the word 'fizzes' though.
    Yeah, fizzy drinks and soft drinks are interchangeable. Soda refers to soda water, or soda bread, pop is a sickly children's drink, and Coke is Coca Cola/Pepsi.

    For what it's worth, I have a hard time determining which term we'd use back in Utah. I think we may be close to the dividing line between 'soda' and 'pop', though I haven't looked at the map for it for some time. In my experience we'd usually just call them 'drinks', especially since we weren't already using the term for alcohol.
    Of course, in Utah, you call jelly "Jell-o". So who knows what you might call soft drinks.

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    Unless you are made of lard, you probably lost "water weight", as mentioned before. Starving yourself destroys your metabolism and and build you might have. It also prevents you from making gains while working out.

    Drink nothing but water. Cut out junk. Cook your own food. Stay away from HFCS. Go jog. Go lift heavy things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I wouldn't try that in Mexico.
    Wouldn't that be a coke coke coke?
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    Amazing how many people still cling to the discredited idea of calorie limitation and exercise. It doesn't work. You would have to run up and down the stairs 50 times to 'burn off' the calories from one piece of toast

    It's all to do with metabolism and what kinds of fuel you are putting in your body.

    There are, broadly speaking, 4 kinds of sugars:

    monosaccharides
    disaccharides
    polysaccharides
    oligosaccharides

    The top of the list is simple sugar, the bottom is complex carbohydrate. If your body was a normal family car - the first is rocket fuel, the last is normal petrol/diesel. If you eat loads of monosaccharides then you are giving your body too much sugar. Your body will produce loads of insulin and turn it all in to fat. You will get fat and diabetic. Loads of stored fat, messed up insulin system. Coincidentally, what is happening to more and more people on a diet full of processed carbs and sugars - HFCS in the US being a particularly good example - although there are others.

    Personally I don't eat any processed sugar because I messed up my metabolism with bad diet. Plenty of veg, meat, fish, dairy, complex carbs (oats, rye, brown rice, others). Lost lots of weight, felt lots better. No problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Amazing how many people still cling to the discredited idea of calorie limitation and exercise. It doesn't work. You would have to run up and down the stairs 50 times to 'burn off' the calories from one piece of toast
    No. If you expend more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. This is rudimentary physics were talking about here. If you don't, you should probably let the government know so they can study your magical body that produces calories from nothing so they can end the energy crisis.

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    No, Idaho is correct. Our bodies are rather efficient. One-hundred calories is a mile of running, roughly speaking. After that mile, plus a bit more passive exercise, you will be hungry and thirsty. You will not only fail to lose weight, but actually gain some. Read the new studies. Even the Times published an article on this sometime last year. The only way to lose weight is to eat a regular, filling, but yet healthy diet. Exercise builds up health, but it does not cause normal people to lose too much weight, if at all. Only the extremes do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    No, Idaho is correct. Our bodies are rather efficient. One-hundred calories is a mile of running, roughly speaking. After that mile, plus a bit more passive exercise, you will be hungry and thirsty. You will not only fail to lose weight, but actually gain some. Read the new studies. Even the Times published an article on this sometime last year. The only way to lose weight is to eat a regular, filling, but yet healthy diet. Exercise builds up health, but it does not cause normal people to lose too much weight, if at all. Only the extremes do.
    You only need a two hundred daily calorie deficit to lose weight at a reasonable rate. You are right in the sense that starving yourself is bad, but it's pretty ridiculous to claim that exercise doesn't help. If you lift weights, you will build muscle. Muscles require more calories to sustain themselves, ergo you will burn more of them and lose weight.

    Seriously; basic science here.

    EDIT: Actually you're sort of right. Exercise doesn't contribute to your weight loss as much as diet but it does affect your body composition which is a factor.
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    That biggest loser or whatever it is called where they get fatties, feed them rabbit food then get them 24/7 in a gym shows that exercise and diet thing works for sure. After a month, they go from like 400 to 200 or whatever the weights they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Read the new studies. Even the Times published an article on this sometime last year. The only way to lose weight is to eat a regular, filling, but yet healthy diet. Exercise builds up health, but it does not cause normal people to lose too much weight, if at all.
    Again, it is more complex than that. As I've already said the type of exercise you do is key. If you go for a 8km jog you won't lose weight if you are eating an ordinary diet. If you however, do 60 sets of sprints and an hour of weight training, without supplimenting your intake you will lose weight, because your metabolic rates are boosted for the following 24 hours after exercise.
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    It's natural for the body to increase it's intake of calories if you're doing that much intensive exercise though.

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    Man, I'd die from sheer stress having to take all of this nonsense into account. Eat this, eat that, exercise this way, that way.

    Madness, I say!


    Most Greeks grew up in far less abundance than 21st century US/Northwest European standards. They all smoke four packets of cigarettes a day. Can't keep their hands of the ouzo and wine either. Hospitals are so underfunded and full of obsolete equipment that your survival chances drop dramatically should you make the mistake of visiting one.

    Yet all Greeks live to be ninety years old, in great physical and mental health. The Greek 'pensioner' works or tills his lands in the morning, dozes a bit in the afternoon, plays a game in the village square late afternoon, then spends the entire evening from six to one 'o clock eating and drinking. Olive oil, fish, lean meat and veggies. All fresh and unprocessed.
    The more your diet and lifestyle resembles this, the longer, happier and healthier you live. Everything else is bollox that will only get you a heart attack at 48.


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    i love southern europe so beautiful.............

    ive never tried losing weigh ti just gain gain gain. so i always try to have as many calories as possible without becoming overweight.

    do you guys know how they determine whether a population is overweight right? with the bmi index. im like 206-7 right now and im not overweight, i should be 155 if i want to be normal sized. Im 6'1 thats a tiny weight, i could see 175 maybe. so i dont really know how honestly to take those statistics for america. i mean no doubt there are plenty of fatties here but i think 50% percent which is the new buzz number is a little ridiculous.

    anyone care to enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    No, Idaho is correct. Our bodies are rather efficient. One-hundred calories is a mile of running, roughly speaking. After that mile, plus a bit more passive exercise, you will be hungry and thirsty. You will not only fail to lose weight, but actually gain some. Read the new studies. Even the Times published an article on this sometime last year. The only way to lose weight is to eat a regular, filling, but yet healthy diet. Exercise builds up health, but it does not cause normal people to lose too much weight, if at all. Only the extremes do.
    This is just flat wrong. I've seen guys drop and gain hundredes of pounds before by counting calories, it's what stregnth sports are based on.

    Now Idaho made a good point about macronutrients but Calories are still the most important thing.

    A 500 calorie meal is a 500 calorie meal, eat only that and you will lose weight no matter what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Of course, in Utah, you call jelly "Jell-o". So who knows what you might call soft drinks.
    I'm pretty sure that's an America thing, not just a Utah thing. I assume you're referring to this when you say jelly? What do you call this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Most Greeks grew up in far less abundance than 21st century US/Northwest European standards. They all smoke four packets of cigarettes a day. Can't keep their hands of the ouzo and wine either. Hospitals are so underfunded and full of obsolete equipment that your survival chances drop dramatically should you make the mistake of visiting one.

    Yet all Greeks live to be ninety years old, in great physical and mental health. The Greek 'pensioner' works or tills his lands in the morning, dozes a bit in the afternoon, plays a game in the village square late afternoon, then spends the entire evening from six to one 'o clock eating and drinking. Olive oil, fish, lean meat and veggies. All fresh and unprocessed.
    The more your diet and lifestyle resembles this, the longer, happier and healthier you live. Everything else is bollox that will only get you a heart attack at 48.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaxfetish View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's an America thing, not just a Utah thing. I assume you're referring to this when you say jelly? What do you call this?

    Ajax
    The first one is jelly, and the second is jam. So what do you use the word jam to describe then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    So what do you use the word jam to describe then?
    This, of course!

    (Yeah, there's really never been a clear distinction for me between what we call jams and what we call jellies. Some things are generally called jelly (I've never heard of a grape jam or apple jam) while others are always jams (I've similarly never heard of a raspberry jelly). Jello's one of those brand names like kleenex or bandaid that have come to mean the item rather than the brand here in the U.S. Calling jello a jelly just sounds really odd to me)

    p.s. My wife informs me that jam has seeds or pulp, while jelly is made out of the juice and so doesn't have any chunkiness or texture to it.

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