StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Probably pever, he wants me to join his game and I said only one game at a time.

Hence why i was laughing.

Of course the frame would only work if they saw the conversation, which is like...Beefy and Beskar are the only two other orgahs who could have seen that and are playing.

Unvote: Renata, Vote: Beskar

Oops, thanks ATPG, edited.

Sigurd allowing edited votes?

You have much to learn, my young padawan.

PM me and I'll consider letting you become a disciple of peverreenk.

[TinCow]

The thing is, it wasn't even a pressure vote. What pressure, where is the pressure? it was just a OMGUS vote.

If you wanted to attempt to pressure Sasaki, even saying something like "You seem too quick to jump the gun at the new guy. vote: sasaki". Not going "oh yeah.. erm... also.. here is a pressure vote. vote: sasaki". By saying 'pressure vote' you actually remove validiation from your own vote.

Being new, I also have to assume that he is referencing to Chaotix's ill-understood obscure reference as a basis, or he actually knows something about mafia. Knowing the circles around here from places like CFC, one is to assume he has actually played mafia before, if not the gameroom.

So tell us more about yourself, Nikky.

Unvote; Vote:Niklas.

You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it.
Unvote; Vote: Beskar

[naut]

Beskar looks awfully not scummy. Some clutching at straws here.

[Captain Blackadder]

What is the deal with Nikkas why are people thinking he is scummy? It seems mean to lynch the new guy but if he killed Husar it was also mean to kill the comeback man.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it.
Unvote; Vote: Beskar

Personally I like to haze the new guy by forcing him to "Wol Cabasshite-kiss" Salacious B. Crumb while wearing a Twi'lek slave girl outfit and getting zapped with the electric pike of an R2-series astromech droid.

I'll take geek trivia for $2,000, Alex.

[Andres]

Twi'lek slave girl

Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Unvote; Vote : ATPG

No looks at the interesting parts for you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Statement: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

unvote, vote: Andres



P.S. you are wrong, too:

Slavery was used by civilizations as disparate as the Infinite Empire of the Rakata, Xim the Despot's empire, the Hutts, the Galactic Empire, the Zann Consortium, the Yuuzhan Vong, and the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium. To chronicle the use of slavery by various civilizations over the history of the galaxy was considered by many to be a futile task.

Slavery was made illegal by the Galactic Republic under the Rights of Sentience clause, but continued to exist, particularly in regions not under Republic control, primarily the Outer Rim Territories and the Senex Sector. On Tatooine, some slaves were installed with chips in their craniums that killed them if they tried to escape.[1][2]
A Slave Fair on Orvax IV.

Another variation (at least to some) was ownership of droids. Some felt that this "ownership" was merely enslavement of their kind and fought to give them their freedom. An uprising of droids would later bring such ideas of their liberation into question.

However, after the rise of the Empire, slavery was once again given a degree of legitimacy with the issuance of Imperial Decree A-SL-4557.607.232. While the Empire officially upheld the ban on personal chattel slavery (which it prudently overlooked in regions such as Hutt Space), slavery as a punishment or labor measure for public imperial interests became commonplace. Non-Humans and human critics of the New Order alike were rounded up and enslaved en-masse for work on such projects as the Death Star. Agorffi,[3] Wookiees, Yuzzem, and Talz were exploited for their strength while the Mon Calamari were used for their famous ship-building skills. Meanwhile, the Empire frequently ignored the trade of Twi'lek girls, who were enslaved for their beauty.[4]
Platt Okeefe in slave outfit.

When the New Republic became the dominant galactic power, slavery was once again made illegal by New Republic Senate Resolution 54.325.[4] However, slavery still continued in remote areas of the galaxy particularly in the Outer Rim and on certain Imperial fortress worlds such as Byss. The former Imperial Procurator of Justice Hethrir was a major figure in the slave trade and sold undesirable captives into slavery at Crseih Station in the remote Crseih system. With his death, the slave trade suffered a major blow.[5] Slavery re-emerged as a significant threat during the Yuuzhan Vong War as practiced by the extra-galactic Yuuzhan Vong Empire. In particular, the Chazrach slave race were used in military operations.

Slaving was often handled by experienced slaving guilds; three of the most notable were the Thalassian Slavers, the Zygerrian Slavers Guild, and the Karazak Slaver's Cooperative.[4] Other criminal groups such as the Exchange and the Black Sun also had slave trades. The Invisible Market dealt largely with selling slaves on behalf of the Black market, especially since the black market was more out in the open.

Clearly more than just Sith employ slaves. Especially humanoid meatbags like you who treat us droids like filth.

[Winston Hughes]

What is the deal with Nikkas why are people thinking he is scummy? It seems mean to lynch the new guy but if he killed Husar it was also mean to kill the comeback man.

I think it unlikely that Niklas killed Husar, especially after their exchange during sign-ups.

Better choices, by my estimation, would be White_eyes:D or Beskar, both of whom have responded to the Niklas/Husar affair in a rather contrived manner.

Out of the pair of them, I see White_eyes:D as the more likely to have killed poor Husar, though, so that's where my vote is staying for now.

[Captain Blackadder]

The force has informed me to

Vote TM

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That explains the laughter then. unvote, vote:Beskar

My gut is saying Beskar.

[Husar]

I don't think you can vote TradeMark.

And pever, I need to check them out, I had no idea who else was commenting on it.

[Yaropolk]

Well no big loss, Jacen Solo was going to grow up to be a sith lord anyway:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus

On another topic - who writes these Wookipedia novels? They've got more baby pictures of Jacen Solo posted than I have in my real life baby album!

And vote: Lord Winter - that's definitely a sith lord name

[Jolt]

The force has informed me to

Vote TM

Question: Is there such thing as the force? Or is that one of your meatbag inventions?

[TinCow]

Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Unvote; Vote : ATPG

No looks at the interesting parts for you.

The Rancor Jedi will have sympathized with those who will have opposed slavery, for the Rancor will have known the cruelty of slavery only too well:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

About those interesting parts... will the Rancor Jedi have seen them?

[pevergreen]

On another topic - who writes these Wookipedia novels?

Sarathos.

[Andres]

Especially humanoid meatbags like you who treat us droids like filth.

Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

[Jolt]

Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

Interjection: HK droids are beyond such meatbag division lines. We merely do the job we are programmed to do.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system

Somewhere else on the ship two Jedi Masters woke up with a start. They had felt a change in their very being. Something was calling to them. They immediately started meditating to calm their startled emotions. A presence filled them with great joy and peace and the calling had them leave their quarters to a special room…

3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.

“He, He, He… Do you really thing that puny lightsaber is going to stop me?” The creature stretched his hand out and Jacen felt the air empty out of his lungs. He panicked and dropped his lightsaber which went out and brought them back into darkness. The creature continued: “You Jedi Knights with your plasma toys, Do you not realize that you have so much more potential than mere saber wielding? Time will change my friend, but sadly you will not see it.” And with those words, Jacen felt his windpipe break and utter darkness enveloped him.

4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.

The cloaked person boomed: “Going somewhere initiate?” X2 was quick to answer: “ I was looking for something to eat.” The cloaked person replied: “ I think this is the end of your search. As soon as he had said that, the creature jumped at X2 with a twirl and a following sound of a lighsaber power swoosh. On the floor at the cloaked creature’s feet, lay a headless body.

5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

Answer: Droids aren't force users. And no.

[Andres]

Droids aren't force users. And no.

Droids can serve any master.

Are you a droid?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Droids can serve any master.

Are you a droid?

Query: Can't you tell, master?

[Captain Blackadder]

Question: Is there such thing as the force? Or is that one of your meatbag inventions?

Of course there is you silly droid I taught myself the ways of the force I needed no teacher to tell me what the force is I discovered it for myself now get out of my sight it sickens me to even see your kind here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Statement: I would very much like to speak with the force-using non-droid meatbags who so admirably killed the other force-using non-droid meatbags. It would be my pleasure to hear of the horrified, painful gasps of their squirming victims. Of course, I would never harm you, my masters.

Malevolent Clarification: Unless it suited me to do so.

[Yaropolk]

Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system



3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.



4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.



5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

This should be obvious from teh writeup but

9. If a Jedi is killed, a Padawan gets promoted. If a Padawan is killed, god kills a kitten.

[Subotan]

The Jedi Leader

The next morning the leader of the expedition was met with frustrated Jedi members in one of the hallways

5a. It appears that we have a "Godfather" of our own.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This should be obvious from teh writeup but

9. If a Jedi is killed, a Padawan gets promoted. If a Padawan is killed, god kills a kitten.

Sarcastic query: Yes, master, that is correct. Would you like to meet your god?

[naut]

Well, if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?

[atheotes]

Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system



3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.

“He, He, He… Do you really thing that puny lightsaber is going to stop me?” The creature stretched his hand out and Jacen felt the air empty out of his lungs. He panicked and dropped his lightsaber which went out and brought them back into darkness. The creature continued: “You Jedi Knights with your plasma toys, Do you not realize that you have so much more potential than mere saber wielding? Time will change my friend, but sadly you will not see it.” And with those words, Jacen felt his windpipe break and utter darkness enveloped him.

4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.

Agree with 1 and 2. On 3, the sith who killed seems very powerful - my initial thought was it could be the Sith lord himself. But that doesnt tie in with the god father system (right?). The only other possibility is that the recruit was a strong Jedi master.
on 4, I think the second killer is a Sith recruit and not a bounty hunter or droid. I have never played in a Sigurd game before...so not sure if he includes neutral characters with their own missions, a la bounty hunters.

5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

5-8: It is Difficult for me to infer any of those from the write up.

[atheotes]

5a. It appears that we have a "Godfather" of our own.

From the first writeup...

You have been told that a special envoy from the Jedi Council on Coruscant is present among you, but you don’t know who he is or why he is here. You only know what you have been told – and that is that he is the leader of this expedition.