StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Grayblades should be unvoted. Based on that role claim, there is exculpatory evidence out there about him.

Can you point me to which posts there is such?

[Niklas]

If you guys really need proof that Psychonaut is innocent, then I will say that the "real" Obi-Wan should reveal to me at any time. And if nobody makes the counterclaim... we have nothing to fear.

Why would "being Obi-Wan" imply innocence? I don't understand this logic. I don't question that Psychonaut is Obi-Wan, how does that make him innocent?

Just wondering. What is the major reasoning behind the choice of Niklas? I mean, he's been inconsistent, but not particularily scummy.

The reasoning for choosing me can apparently be found in this post.

I don't agree that I've been inconsistent though, everything I've done has been for a reason. "Constantly jumping on the easy target"? That's called pressure, and my first vote in a day is rarely my last. Care to elaborate?

Grayblades should be unvoted. Based on that role claim, there is exculpatory evidence out there about him.

Wanna share? Before reading this post of yours I was definitely ready to follow Psychonaut's logic.

[Secura]

Well, that changes everything... whether or not the role claim is true is irrelevant, because he'll probably be WOG'd for posting it in the first place. Shame on you, sir.

unvote: Greyblades.

[Greyblades]

The first post and first writeup didnt say anything about whether or not role reveals are alowed. The only thing I did see was pretty vague.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, that changes everything... whether or not the role claim is true is irrelevant, because he'll probably be WOG'd for posting it in the first place. Shame on you, sir.

unvote: Greyblades.

No he won't, it's not against the rules for this game.

And because it isn't, that means that there's a 99% certainty that the Sith have cover roles.

If this is how you react to a role reveal, then we will never catch a Sith, because the Sith will simply reveal their cover role and boom, all of a sudden they are off the hook.

[Secura]

No he won't, it's not against the rules for this game.

I wasn't aware of that fact, though; after sixty-one pages and over eighteen hundred posts (and that's just this game) I sorta lose track.

And because it isn't, that means that there's a 99% certainty that the Sith have cover roles.

I took that as a given from the start of the game...

If this is how you react to a role reveal, then we will never catch a Sith, because the Sith will simply reveal their cover role and boom, all of a sudden they are off the hook.

It's how I react because I wasn't aware it's okay to post Role PMs in-thread; if I had been, I would not have removed my vote. And now that I am aware, vote: Greyblades.

[Diana Abnoba]

Thanks all, for your answers. I reread and got it now.

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: Greyblades I agree with Psychonaut's logic.

[Subotan]

Even if the Sith don't have cover roles, there's a possibility that Greyblades has been converted. That wouldn't explain his consistently scummy behaviour, but it might go some way to account for the change from lurking to making downright suspicious posts.

Assuming there isn't some breaking news which reveals that Greybldes isn't Sith, my vote stays where it is.

[Diamondeye]

I'm intrigued as to why you're so into voting against me, Renata. Care to elaborate - in private if need be?

[Greyblades]

Oh boy, this is going to be such a dissapointment.
Sigurd is there anyone wo needs replacing? Somehow I think I will be available in the near future.

[Husar]

We do not know that none of the Sith are running around with perfectly legitimate cover roles -- in fact, the write-ups suggest that they are.

Grayblades should be unvoted. Based on that role claim, there is exculpatory evidence out there about him.

Either you are contradicting yourself in two consecutive posts or you have some evidence that is not out in the open?

[Greyblades]

there is exculpatory evidence out there about him.

Any chance you could expand on this?

[Renata]

Dang is nobody around on Sundays?

I do have information nobody else has, or at least that nobody else who's posted has. It's not about his role -- I said *evidence*. The player with that role was witnessed sleeping last night. As opposed to killing people.

[Sigurd]

voting closed...

[Renata]

For God's sake ...

[autolycus]

What's the reasoning behind the voting for niklas? I'm inclined to trust Renata's case for Greyblades' innocence. I have less reason to trust niklas, and time is running down on today, so I'll vote: niklas.

[Renata]

Seriously, people, I know I didn't go into much detail and I couldn't be around to follow up, but how much plainer could I be? Does anyone really think I would contradict myself five posts apart? Obviously I was talking about something else.

Argh.

[autolycus]

Cross post with the vote :(

[Greyblades]

*slowl claps* Well done town you killed me and I have to say you are a good bunch of players for you see I am realy... an initiate, congratulations town you failed spectacularly.

[Renata]

Next time I'll spell it out in size 20 bold print and words of fewer than two syllables.

[Greyblades]

Its times like this that makes me wish I took the chance to learn how to say you lose in zulu.

[Renata]

I don't get it, I honestly don't. I had to go out right when I saw your role claim, and it matched up with information I had from earlier, I just didn't know how much to say about it and honestly didn't think it would matter. I was shocked to come back and find out practically no one had taken me at my word, not even in a "if this is wrong, you'll regret it" sort of way. I have no idea what to make of it.

[Greyblades]

I do but if I said it out loud I'd be banned.
Gosh I had no idea bashing people for failing felt so cathartic no wonder trolls do it.

[Renata]

I guess the fail must be just as much on my part for mis-reading how people would react. Sorry.

[Sigurd]

Round 8

Night

When Qui-Gon Jinn returned the assembled Jedi had found a candidate and the tally was presented.
It was not a majority vote, but the candidate was in lead by two votes. 1/3rd of the crew had not even lodged a vote and Qui-Gon looked sternly at them. "You have not washed your hands clean by not participating. If the candidate is not a Sith, it is your fault as much as those who voted for him. By not participating you are not contributing to rooting out the killers. Three of you are in danger of being replaced."
Qui-Gon Jinn called out: “Could Lar Le'Ung please come forward!” The young initiate came forward meekly. He had nothing to counter the accusations with.
Qui-Gon Jinn called for some Knights to take care of the execution. The Knights escorted Lar out of the auditorium and the others followed suit. Qui-Gon stopped them: “Not so fast, I am not finished with you lot yet. I am ordering with immediate effect a thorough search of the ship. We need to look in every hook and corner for clues about the Sith. I believe there are artifacts on this ship which might give us certain clues about what this is all about. Now go and find me some clues people. You have until 2300 hours GMT+1. I want results!!”

Two of the assembled crew members made a hasty look at each other and an unnoticed hand signal passed between them.
The crew went their way and was met by the Knights carrying a frozen and dead Lar Le’Ung on a stretcher. They were heading for the morgue.

Night ends at 23:00 GMT+1 Monday 26th of April (roughly 24 hours from my voting ended post and 22,5 hours from this post )


Tally:

Greyblades: 5 (Diana, johnhugh, Secura, Subotan, TinCow)

Psychonaut: 3 (Greyblades, Kage, Niklas)
Niklas: 2 (Chaotix, Yaropolk)
White_Eyes:D: 2 (ATPG, Diamondeye)
Diamondeye: 1 (Renata)
johnhughthom: 1 (Split)

Abstaining: 1 (GH)
Not voting: 8 (atheotes, autolycus, AVSM, Centurion1, Choxorn, pever, Psychonaut, WE:D)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lynched:

a completely innocent name
TheFlax
Belisarius II
Yaseikhaan
Thermal Mercury
Greyblades

Killed:

Beefy187
Husar
Captain Blackadder
Khazaar
Csargo
Ibn-Khaldun
Methos
Andres
Beskar
Winston Hughes
Chaotix
Sasaki Kojiro
Joooray

Force Ghost:

Chaotix

Alive:

A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Centurion1
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
splitpersonality
Kagemusha
Choxorn
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Renata
Secura
Subotan
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk

[naut]

*slowl claps* Well done town you killed me and I have to say you are a good bunch of players for you see I am realy... an initiate, congratulations town you failed spectacularly.

I'm sorry if you really were. But, simply, if you play so scummily you're bound to get votes.

[White_eyes:D]

Better is to lynch someone we can see is acting self-conscious and nervous, like White_Eyes. Remember, if he's calm, cool, and collected, he can only be mafia scum.

I had fuzzy feelings when I started reading this....do you really think so Pizzaguy? if you really think that way, I well gladly be the next lynch. Your such a flatterer...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I had fuzzy feelings when I started reading this....do you really think so Pizzaguy? if you really think that way, I well gladly be the next lynch. Your such a flatterer...

I believe you're more careful and cautious as mafia.

When you're townie, if we lynch you because you were acting out then you can go "I told you so" and laugh at us, it's no big deal to you. Then the team let you down, not the other way around. When you're mafia, if we lynch you because you were acting out, then you're being lynched for your behavior and you let your team down. So you try to avoid that.

You'll gladly be my next lynch, but you have no other comment except when you're being accused? Obviously you don't care who dies unless it's you.

[White_eyes:D]

I believe you're more careful and cautious as mafia.

When you're townie, if we lynch you because you were acting out then you can go "I told you so" and laugh at us, it's no big deal to you. Then the team let you down, not the other way around. When you're mafia, if we lynch you because you were acting out, then you're being lynched for your behavior and you let your team down. So you try to avoid that.

You'll gladly be my next lynch, but you have no other comment except when you're being accused? Obviously you don't care who dies unless it's you.

Since when have I defending myself and said "Don't lynch me or I will say 'I told you so'?"

I am beyond thinking what town cares(after Shadow Fort)...I am just glad I got a compliment on my new mafia-play style...If you want to lynch me, just lynch me...don't beat around the bush and act like scum