StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm confused. Did chaotix steal beskar's self protect and then kill him? Is that the charge?

[Kagemusha]

If I were just out to get information on who the Jedi master was, I would have done exactly the same thing but not offered my head.

Ok then again that's WIFOM and we won't go there, I don't need a repeat of the earlier argument that got me so frustrated.

I agree there is no point going in circles. For me this is just clear cut risk management. I think you would do the same in my shoes.

[Beskar]

I'm confused. Did chaotix steal beskar's self protect and then kill him? Is that the charge?

Yes. He claimed he is the one who attacked me the night before which I at first thought was a conversation attempt. It turns out it was Chaotix removing my ability to self-protect which I later during the round realised what the event that happened to me that night was.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If that's the case then we should lynch him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree there is no point going in circles. For me this is just clear cut risk management. I think you would do the same in my shoes.

Ah, but I'm not in your shoes, I'm in my shoes! And my shoes are totally 100% more awesome than yours, and they let me see what you cannot, which is how awesome I am.

[Kagemusha]

Well there is a point that could give poor Pizza another day to live. Beskar when did Chaotix originally claim that he was behind the occurance that happened to you?

EDIT: Oh Pizza you have no idea how awesome my shoes are. But then those are my shoes what else you could expect?

[pevergreen]

Vote: Chaotix

Seemingly random vote straight after night ends on perhaps the most innocent person in the game.

Plus he is mafia.

That or OMGUS.

[Beskar]

Well there is a point that could give poo Pizza another day to live. Beskar when did Chaotix originally claim that he was behind the occurance that happened to you?

Just now, when he said "I am going to send Beskar a private message", when I recieved it, it basically said sorry, but I removed your self-protect and I sent in orders after removing your ability to vig-kil opposed to protecting you. Though, I am surprised he never took that first, if he was so concerned about me going "bad", though removing my ability to protect myself the night before I get killed? I think there is more to that order, and that is, he removed it to make sure I didn't do it, then he can kill me.

[Kagemusha]

Just now, when he said "I am going to send Beskar a private message", when I recieved it, it basically said sorry, but I removed your self-protect and I sent in orders after removing your ability to vig-kil opposed to protecting you. Though, I am surprised he never took that first, if he was so concerned about me going "bad", though removing my ability to protect myself the night before I get killed? I think there is more to that order, and that is, he removed it to make sure I didn't do it, then he can kill me.

Well that is bit too rich to believe from a pro town player. I guess its time to Unvote and Vote: Chaotix. Pizza tomorrow you unless more urgent things appear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well that is bit too rich to believe from a pro town player. I guess its time to Unvote and Vote: Chaotix. Pizza tomorrow you unless more urgent things appear.

Well I gave it my best shot.

Sorry Chaotix, I am not nearly as awesome as I thought. Time to hit them over the head with the truth and eat the consequences.

[Beskar]

Well I gave it my best shot.

Sorry Chaotix, I am not nearly as awesome as I thought. Time to hit them over the head with the truth and eat the consequences.

There is no proof what Chaotix claimed to you is even true and his behaviour has questioned otherwise. I know what he claimed to you, he also did the same to me. Chaotix's claims get even more disturbing then what I even said, I don't know how much I am allowed to reveal, but lets say, Chaotix was in a more than adequate situation to make sure I am well protected.

[Secura]

You removed Beskar's self-protection and then tried to remove his ability to vig-kill? Where the Dickens was the logic for that? Why remove his self-protection?

At best, you are a Sith... at worst, you might just be the most foolish person that I have ever seen with a power role. Either way, you're a liability, need to die, bye-bye.

[Chaotix]

I DID NOT VIG-KILL BESKAR.

THE SITH KILLED BESKAR.

I am an idiot, but you're all even bigger idiots if you're going to lynch me.

Please do not make me reveal everything. I will do it, and then things will get worse then they are.

[Secura]

(( above post was due to reading incorrectly, still find him suspect, posting anew so vote is in unedited post ))

vote: Chaotix

[Kagemusha]

I DID NOT VIG-KILL BESKAR.

THE SITH KILLED BESKAR.

I am an idiot, but you're all even bigger idiots if you're going to lynch me.

Please do not make me reveal everything. I will do it, and then things will get worse then they are.

Well you only have yourself to blame if that will happen. If you have information that could be harmfull to the town if revealed.Just sit back and wait for death.

[Secura]

I am an idiot, but you're all even bigger idiots if you're going to lynch me.

This is an understatement; why did you remove Beskar's ability to protect?

What use are you to the town if you're going to neuter pro-town roles? Where is the logic in it, Chaotix? Because right now... I see none, all I see is you as a liability to us all.

[atheotes]

Just now, when he said "I am going to send Beskar a private message", when I recieved it, it basically said sorry, but I removed your self-protect and I sent in orders after removing your ability to vig-kil opposed to protecting you. Though, I am surprised he never took that first, if he was so concerned about me going "bad", though removing my ability to protect myself the night before I get killed? I think there is more to that order, and that is, he removed it to make sure I didn't do it, then he can kill me.

So Chaotix is claiming to be this person?

Another figure was out and about and when he reached his destination, he was met with a hallway and quarters blown up. It looked like a bomb had exploded and ripped a hole in the ship side. The person's cabin he intended to visit was just gone and the person was nowhere to be found.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I DID NOT VIG-KILL BESKAR.

THE SITH KILLED BESKAR.

I am an idiot, but you're all even bigger idiots if you're going to lynch me.

Please do not make me reveal everything. I will do it, and then things will get worse then they are.

It would be better for the town to listen to Not-Sith Pizzaguy. Don't lynch Chaotix.

[Beskar]

Also, I just realised. You remember Chaotix saying about the "evil sith holocron" etc?

He never said that he has actually used it publicly. Was he confessing that he is a Sith that used it? His role he claimed, has used the holocron.

Chaotix claimed to have done this:

Count Dooku returned from a previous engagement and was met by a familiar person outside his quarters. “Dooku, we need to talk, let’s enter the privacy of your quarters.” Count Dooku opened the door to his cabin and gestured for the person to enter”.
The person went in and walked over to the living room of this formerly officer’s cabin. He stood there in the middle of the room waiting. Dooku entered: “What was it you wanted to talk to me about?” The person turned around with an accusing stare. “I am sorry, but I have to do this.” And by those words Dooku felt a terrible pain in his mind. He fell to the floor in agony and everything went dark.
Dooku later woke up in his bed with a dried up nose bleed. What had happened to him? And why couldn’t he remember how he got to his cabin?

[Thermal]

Chaotix is being far less professional than usual.


vote: Subotan

[Kagemusha]

Me thinks Chaotix is the Sith and Pizza is his apprentice. Pizza already stated bit way back that he would not do any good for the Sith if recruited and in our earlier exchance in the thread he claimed: Would he be a sith.He would only do what he has done today to save his master.

[Secura]

He's a liability to town even if he is a power role, though; removing Beskar's protect isn't the action of a townie, surely?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Me thinks Chaotix is the Sith and Pizza is his apprentice. Pizza already stated bit way back that he would not do any good for the Sith if recruited and in our earlier exchance in the thread he claimed: Would he be a sith.He would only do what he has done today to save his master.

Oh Kage, epic fail man.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: khaan

Bandwagon please, at least a minor one. He was unnaturally pushy in trying to get me back towards a Beskar lynch yesterday on Steam, after I had moved my vote off him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: khaan

Bandwagon please, at least a minor one. He was unnaturally pushy in trying to get me back towards a Beskar lynch yesterday on Steam, after I had moved my vote off him.

unvote, vote: Khaan

since I'm not getting lynched.

[Chaotix]

Ok, you all want the truth. Now you can have it.

I am Yoda, the Jedi Grand Master and Expedition Leader.

I was wary of Beskar because of his susceptibility to the Dark Side. In my position, you would all be just as wary. However, I still contacted him.

I pretended that I was the contact of a protector who wanted to protect Beskar. In reality, I was protecting him myself. I had the ability to protect him, but in order to keep him from vig-killing and making himself convertible, I wanted him to send me investigation results to prove he was not killing people.

I protected Beskar for the first two nights, but he did not send me investigation results as I had asked several times. Now I was really starting to be suspicious of him. So, by now I had more powers due to the Jedi Holocron. I used my Force Drain ability to take Beskar's self-protect ability. Presumably, this would require him to rely on me for protection, so that he would be forced to investigate and not do anything else if he wanted protection.

That didn't really work. I still didn;t get investigation results from him, so I decided to take his vig-kill ability last night and be done with it- that way there was no way Beskar would be susceptible to turning over to the Dark Side. Beskar believed my contact was protecting him. Beskar also had his own Self-Protect ability from the Holocron again. He used it on himself, but it didn't work. So even though I did take the protection, that wouldn't and didn't help him.

Beskar found out that he was being attacked (he had to choose a force power for defense) and pm'ed me again for confirmation. Now I scrambled and tried to change my order to protect him, but the round was already over and I could do nothing. I made a huge mistake, but from my perspective I never thought he was going to be attacked. He was under too much pressure from the town for the mafia to conceivably attack him.

I did not want Beskar to die, and I would go back and change it if I could.

But you cannot lynch me. If you do that, you get rid of a third pro-town power role. I'll lay out my abilities exactly for you.

I have:

Force Healing (Jedi Master)- This allows me to protect another player during the night.
Force Protect (Jedi Knight)- This allows me to protect myself; I took this from Beskar.
Drain Knowledge (Grand Master)- This allows me to investigate a player and take an ability if they have one. I am the only player who can ever learn this.
Morichro (Grand Master)- This allows me to roleblock a player. I am the only player who can ever learn this.

In addition to just having the abilities, I can use two of them every night phase. Unless I am protecting myself, they both must be used on the same player.

So, like I said. You really don't want to lynch me. I made a mistake, and I admit that fully. But I will be much more useful alive then dead for the time being.

[Chaotix]

I'm not going to sit by and be lynched, either. Unvote, Vote: khaan.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No counterclaim on either Yoda or Expedition leader means it's the truth.

Oh, how it would have been nice if people listened to Not-Sith Pizzaguy.

[Beskar]

That didn't really work. I still didn;t get investigation results from him, so I decided to take his vig-kill ability last night.

Lie, you had the results from my investigation of Pizza, even people in the thread got that.

I never sent my other, as I had no proof you was actually protecting me and you was even inactive due to your Birthday, so I thought, as you never replied to my private message. However, you made the time to remove my protect before replying to my private message.

[Chaotix]

That was one. You had, what, five nights? What happened to those?