StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Subotan]

If your wondering why I voted for subotan I did so because he is on the fantastic 4 suspicion list and is behavioring simliarly to as he did in mafia XI, I think.

Fantastic Four list? Oh, you must mean the posts when I criticised the runaway bandwagon on Belisaurus for being a...runaway bandwagon. A bandwagon that you were swept away in, I might add.

Also, I would like to see this alleged behaviour that you accuse me of, since I can't recall more than a couple of inane comments, as opposed to a record of mindless gibberish that I spouted in Mafia IX.

Although I do like ATPG's phrase, "Subotan Syndrome"

Gah! I'm gone for half a day and the threads jumped four 90 post pages.
Any chance someone could explain whats happened?

Beskar and Winston are dead, Chaotix has revealed himself as Yoda, Psycho has revealed himself as Obi-Wan. That's about it. The rest is just fluff by us trying to get Chaotix and Psycho to reveal.

[Greyblades]

...I'm gone for half a day and you lot expose the two characters who are most likely to be powerful town roles... Dear god, which blooming genius thought that one up?

[Thermal]

Fantastic Four list? Oh, you must mean the posts when I criticised the runaway bandwagon on Belisaurus for being a...runaway bandwagon.

No I was just referring to the names Subotan, Niklas, Renata and Secura being tossed around together as 'bad words'.

[Secura]

No I was just referring to the names Subotan, Niklas, Renata and Secura being tossed around together as 'bad words'.

Funny that the three of us were all hesistant to vote for Belisarius based solely upon Beskar's word about some questionable PM responses or lack thereof.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry if my participation's been low recently, but you realize that I've been attacked for it in both this game and Inishmore. It's also a week before finals in college. It's also rather hard to synthesize information when every time you come back to the thread there are four new pages to read.

As far as my behavior goes, yes, I was focused on Beskar, but during the last round (the Belsarius lynch) I realized that I may have been off the mark and took my vote off him. My reasoning for going after khaan was that not only did he fail to follow my lead, but he was also unnaturally pushy over Steam to try to get me back on the Beskar wagon. khaan and I talk over Steam a lot (almost daily) and that was the most argumentative I'd ever seen him be when discussing a Mafia game.

[TinCow]

No I was just referring to the names Subotan, Niklas, Renata and Secura being tossed around together as 'bad words'.

So, you're voting for him because of my analysis and FOS, but you don't care about my subsequent analysis which retracted the accusations against all of them?

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Khaan

[Niklas]

unvote: Diana; vote: AVSM

Let's not favor one candidate strongly over the other until they've had a chance to respond. We want pressure, not more runaway wagons!

[Subotan]

Less lurking, more lynching

[Greyblades]

Vote: AVSM

[Renata]

unvote, vote : Yaseikhaan Vague out of thread reasons plus lurking trumps just lurking.

[atheotes]

White_eyes made a soft claim that we were forcing him to reveal. He needs to be looked at...but i dont have any support. Might as well vote where it counts.
Wonder why Khaan and AVSM havent shown up to defend themselves...

unvote: White_eyes; vote : Yaseikhaan

[Husar]

I'd lynch Greyblades, he's gone most of the time anyway and then fakes being concerned.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Khaan

As it seems my vote isn't where I thought it might be in the tally above.

[Sigurd]

voting closed...

[Sigurd]

Round 6

Night

The expedition leader entered the auditorium and the members of the expedition were arguing still. The votes had shifted many times and the poor fellow keeping track of the tally was sitting crying. The expedition leader soothed the fellow and told him to give what he got. He looked over the tally and nodded.
He looked over the assembled crew who had finally gone quiet and announced; “Will Palpatine please come forward.”
There was an audible intake of collective air in the assembled expedition crew as the name was announced. Why, you might wonder…maybe because this was the most innocent looking young Initiate that was with them on this expedition.

The expedition leader felt bad for this young fellow, but democracy had decided.
He had to die to possibly rid the ship of Sith.
The procedure went as the others and the body of Palpatine was recovered and put in a casket and stored in the morgue.

The expedition leader turned to the crew and announced: “I seemed to have forgot to promote another Padawan earlier. One died last night and I am glad to announce that Atris have been found worthy of the honour. Congratulations!!!

Tally:

Yaseikhaan: 9 (ATPG, atheotes, autolycus, GH, johnhugh, Joooray, Renata, Sasaki, TinCow)
A Very Super Market: 6 (Diamondeye, Greyblades, Kage, Niklas, Psycho, Subotan)
Niklas: 1 (Chaotix)
Chaotix: 1 (pever)
Subotan: 1 (Thermal)
Lord Winter: 1 (Yaropolk)

Not voting: 8 (AVSM, centurion1, Diana, Jolt, Lord Winter, Secura, WE:D, Yaseikhaan)

Night orders must be in by 22:00 GMT+1 (23 hours from now)
Round ends at 23:00 GMT+1 (24 hours from now)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lynched:

a completely innocent name
TheFlax
Belisarius II
Yaseikhaan

Killed:

Beefy187
Husar
Captain Blackadder
Khazaar
Csargo
Ibn-Khaldun
Methos
Andres
Beskar
Winston Hughes

Alive:

A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Centurion1
Chaotix
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
GeneralHankerchief
Greyblades
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Lord Winter
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wabam.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Nice, very nice.

[Secura]

Good job, ladies and gents.

[Diamondeye]

What gives you that vibe on TinCow? Just that one post you referred to, or is there anything else?

You don't remember GH voting Beskar each round?

On TinCow; As I said, I don't really know what's triggering me...

As for GH, sure, he voted for Beskar every round but so what? Beskar was in all of the spotlight and it was easy to just make up an opinion about him and stick with it for whatever reasons were cheapest.

Also DE you're at least the third vote on AVSM, which isn't exactly sharing the joy (what Pizza actually advocated).

Yeah well I was trying to find someone who wasn't Yoda and who I could vote for. AVSM seemed a good target.

vote: Diana Abnoba

Good catch. Diana, Speak up

I'd lynch Greyblades, he's gone most of the time anyway and then fakes being concerned.

Also a good idea in my opinion, unless GB gets his game on soon.

Wabam.

I concur. Wabam indeed Nice job, everyone.

[GeneralHankerchief]

BTW, Beskar, consider that my apology.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And now we must be sure that he(Yaseikhaan) actually was Sith. As you people agreed earlier.. name doesn't mean much.

I wonder whether the Siths can recruit and kill in the same time?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote: Diana; vote: AVSM

Let's not favor one candidate strongly over the other until they've had a chance to respond. We want pressure, not more runaway wagons!

Do we.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wabam.

Out of curiosity, if Sigurd could have possibly placed Palpatine in this game at a place in history before his fall to the dark side, like he did with Dooku, I looked up Palpatine and read about his early life.

Quote Wookieepedia, the source for most of this information used when creating the game (in my opinion):

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Palpatine

First encounter

As difficult as it is to learn concrete facts about Palpatine's youth, information on how he became a Sith Lord is even more scarce. Even the reasons for Palpatine becoming aware of the dark side of the Force are a total mystery. Suffice it to say that somehow, his Force-sensitivity escaped the notice of the Jedi Order; instead, his gifts came to the attention of Darth Plagueis, a Muun Dark Lord of the Sith.

Initiation

Having judged the young Palpatine worthy of joining the Sith, Darth Plagueis formally initiated him into the cult. From the time of Darth Bane onward, it was common for Sith names to begin with the forename Darth, a moniker that was as much a title as a name.[10] Many factors went into deciding on the second name. At least one, based on observed ceremonies, is that Sith masters would enter a kind of communion with the dark side of the Force, question it, and within it find inspiration, an answer.[11] Exactly what inspiration Plagueis found in this communion has not been revealed, but Plagueis decided that, from that moment forward, Palpatine would be known as Darth Sidious.

Unlike many other Sith Lords, Palpatine was never a Jedi, was never a Padawan or even an Initiate. He was never found by the Jedi Order, and thus was never, ever on the path to the Jedi.

No matter how early in Palpatine's life, I don't believe Sigurd would have placed him on the light side of the force, because he was never on that path, and it would be quite contrary to accepted Star Wars lore to place Palpatine in the Jedi initiate category. I'm not sure Sigurd would bend the lore to such a degree even for a game... that would be like turning Yoda to the Dark Side. It's a Star Wars game, so I have high hopes "innocent looking initiate" Palpatine was at the very least an apprentice Sith.

I think we have reason to be optimistic we got one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do we.

Oh Niklas, that little post is going to get you into a world of trouble next round.

[Greyblades]

Also a good idea in my opinion, unless GB gets his game on soon.

Hey, I can't help it if the thread jumps mulitple pages when I'm asleep/at college.

[Andres]

Hey, I can't help it if the thread jumps mulitple pages when I'm asleep/at college.

Somebody needs to get his priorities straight

[Niklas]

Oh Niklas, that little post is going to get you into a world of trouble next round.

Heh, if you're suggesting that my post indicates I'm mafia trying to save khaan, you must have me confused with someone stupid.

I am not yet fully convinced Palpatine was Sith, hopefully the night will tell and there will be one less kill. I agree that it is very hard to picture him as a Jedi though. But if it turns out that he was Sith, I might be so inclined as to look for his friend among those now joining in to "celebrate" his demise, and joining the wagon on AVSM when khaan still only had a few votes on him. Yes Diamondeye, I'm looking at you.

[Secura]

I know I will sound stupid for suggesting this... but I think someone capable of doing so should see if it is possible to attack Yaseikhaan's body overnight.

You see... in the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it is revealed how Palpatine was able to live for so long; he has hundreds of clones of himself, cultivated over the years, that simply require his Force essence to find it's way from his deceased body to one of these hibernating ones, whereby he is resurrected back to his full power. He wasn't entirely lying to Anakin Skywalker when he stated that he knew the methods for cheating death.

I could be thinking far, far too much into it, but considering Palpatine was probably the Sith Lord... it would seem too easy for a single lynch to put him down when Count Dooku easily survived being ejected into space. Just a thought. :3

[TinCow]

Yoda is the Expedition Leader, which indicates the top pro-town role was assigned based on canon roles, not randomly. I suspect the same is true with the Sith, and I will be very, very surprised if Palpatine was not the top Sith. Beyond those two, the rest of the roles may indeed have been random... but I think it's pretty safe to notch this one up as a score for the Jedi.