StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Renata]

All right,

unvote, vote: pevergreen

I'd rather be fooled to the end if that's how it goes. And I don't want to lose to the way pever is playing, either, no offense to him as a person.

I propose pever be lynched today. Anyone capable of it can investigate Niklas tonight. Pull his lynch invulnerability. If he comes up bad, lynch him. If the investigator(s) wind up dead, lynch him. Otherwise, take it as it comes.

[Renata]

And I'll add that I say this in part because I have no reason to doubt that the lynch invulnerabililty part of what Niklas told me is true, no matter his alignment. We're not killing him today, no matter what.

[Husar]

My honest opinion is that any discussions concerning quick topics should stay in quicktopics. What some know or do not know concerning meta gaming aspects should stay outside this game thread.

Well, then what are discussions regarding .org mafia games doing in Quicktopics? They should stay here on the .org.
It's a bit of a risk obviously, you either take it or not. Although it is a bit like getting the sith lord based on his tax evasion instead of the killings.
But that's life....

[White_eyes:D]

My honest opinion is that any discussions concerning quick topics should stay in quicktopics. What some know or do not know concerning meta gaming aspects should stay outside this game thread.

Didn't stop CDF from revealing my role to Sasaki and Andres in "That Creeping Darkness"....that's why you ALWAYS double-check your QT user name or you pay for it, as unsportsmanlike that it is, there is no rule against it...

I have been trying to figure out how it could be balanced with only the *Rule of two*....If Niklas is indeed the Sith lord, then we still would have his apprentice somewhere.....my thoughts are that the "Jedi Ranks" somehow fit into how they can recruit, since there would always be two....It goes from Initiate->Padawan->Knight->Master->Expedition Leader.

It would make sense for the Sith to need to be above a rank to "seduce" someone to the Dark side....It would also make sense for the Sith to aim for being the Expedition Leader, so they could recruit anyone they want....anyone feel like debunking this theory?

I am going to gamble and Vote:pevergreen and hope for the best

[johnhughthom]

Feel bad voting for Niklas based on the info given. I always use the same name in QTs (from my first QT, in the original Swords & D20s) for that very reason.

Vote:pevergreen

[Sasaki Kojiro]

@beskar: it depends on what you mean by "knew"

Good, pevergreen is being lynched.

[Niklas]

unvote

I'm glad at least some see reason, but I feel just as bad for pevergreen.

[Sigurd]

voting closed...

[Winston Hughes]

it is a bit like getting the sith lord based on his tax evasion instead of the killings.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Fraud."

"Don't try to frighten us with your swindlerous ways, Lord Evader."

[Sigurd]

Round 9

Night

When Qui-Gon Jinn returned, the crew members were waiting. They had not decided on a candidate to lynch. There was a tie between Den Siva and Kyp Durron. Qui-Gon looked inquisitively on the assembled crew members. “You mean to tell me that you haven’t been able to decide? I can’t go ahead and execute both and be wrong twice. You need to vote a clear candidate. I am cancelling this round of voting. Be sure to give me a clear candidate if it gets to that tomorrow.
Now go and do your duties. We have a ship to sail. And if you by chance come over artefacts or stuff that seems really ancient, bring them to me.

Night time sharpens, heightens each sensation… 22 hours until end of this night. (23:00 GMT+1 Wednesday 28th of April)

Tally:
Niklas: 5 (atheotes, autolycus, Diana, Split, TinCow)
pevergreen: 5 (Centurion, johnhugh, Renata, Subotan, WE:D)

Subotan: 3 (ATPG, Psycho, Yaropolk)
White_Eyes:D: 2 (Chaotix, Diamondeye)
Psycho: 1 (Choxorn)
Centurion1: 1 (pevergreen)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (GH)

Not voting: 2 (AVSM, Niklas)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lynched:

a completely innocent name
TheFlax
Belisarius II
Yaseikhaan
Thermal Mercury
Greyblades

Killed:

Beefy187
Husar
Captain Blackadder
Khazaar
Csargo
Ibn-Khaldun
Methos
Andres
Beskar
Winston Hughes
Chaotix
Sasaki Kojiro
Joooray
Kagemusha
Secura

Force Ghost:

Chaotix

Alive:

A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Centurion1
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
splitpersonality
Choxorn
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Renata
Subotan
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk

[Husar]

Interesting....

That is the most undesirable result I could think of...

Now who wants to bet that

a) two people who voted for the sith lord die tonight?

b) the other sith is among the ones voting for the other guy? (risky, I know, but if it gives them one more night to kill I could see them take that risk...)

Now why were two suspicious people, white_eyes and johnhughtom, vothing for pever relatively late, after Niklas had been shown to be the sith lord almost without doubt?

Now we got absolutely nothing, just a wasted round.

[Niklas]

Now why were two suspicious people, white_eyes and johnhughtom, vothing for pever relatively late, after Niklas had been shown to be the sith lord almost without doubt?

I AM NOT THE SITH LORD!!! But whatever.

Now we got absolutely nothing, just a wasted round.

Actually, I don't agree with this. I have a one-shot ability to survive a single lynch, like Renata said. It's called Force Breath Control and is available at Padawan level. Presumably, had I been lynched today, I would have lost this ability. Since I wasn't lynched, it means I still have it, and Qui-Gon can take it from me tonight. Then at least my death will not have been completely useless.

[atheotes]

if Niklas turns out to be sith, i am going to

[Chaotix]

Good theory. Except one thing:

Somewhere a member of the Jedi expedition force was meditating.
He had started his usual routine, but was suddenly overcome with peace and elevation as a presence surged into his very being. He heard a call from somewhere and followed the directions he received. The directions led to a special storage area.

This was me. And it took up my usual actions. So therefore, I could not have attacked anyone last night.

You're lying. I know who gained the ability last night, and it wasn't you.

And even if it was, it would not have taken up your actions for the night.

Why are you lying, Obi-Wan?

This post, and Psychonaut in general, should be looked into in great depth. To my knowledge, he has not been protected the past few nights, and yet he has not even been attacked. The Sith killed Methos, Beskar, and me in quick succession without hesitation. Why leave a confirmed Jedi Master alive?

[atheotes]

You're lying. I know who gained the ability last night, and it wasn't you.

And even if it was, it would not have taken up your actions for the night.

Why are you lying, Obi-Wan?

wish you were here earlier.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oooh, "obi-wan" is lying!

[Niklas]

wish you were here earlier.

So do I!!!

[Chaotix]

So do I!!!

So do I.

Unfortunately for you, Niklas, you are just as suspect in my mind and have been for a while now.

[pevergreen]

Dun be lynching me.

I was promoted in a write up a while back. Don't see the point of reveaing who I am yet.

[Choxorn]

(at CFC, the dead can't talk until the game is over).

Technically they can, but only to say things like "OMGUS" or "Told You So" or "This is fun, I'm grabbin popcorn", and not help either side win the game or reveal new info.

*Reads thread, blah blah lynch pever and Niklas* If only the deadline was an hour later, I could have been around to break the tie... :(

You're lying. I know who gained the ability last night, and it wasn't you.

And even if it was, it would not have taken up your actions for the night.

Why are you lying, Obi-Wan?

This post, and Psychonaut in general, should be looked into in great depth. To my knowledge, he has not been protected the past few nights, and yet he has not even been attacked. The Sith killed Methos, Beskar, and me in quick succession without hesitation. Why leave a confirmed Jedi Master alive?

Yeah, something is scummy. FoS: Psychonaut. Could someone get around to scanning him, and Niklas or pever?

[Niklas]

Unfortunately for you, Niklas, you are just as suspect in my mind and have been for a while now.

So I've noted by your votes over the past few days. I don't mind being suspected and voted for, I need the scrutiny as much as everyone else. But to be killed over a metagame issue I had no part of would just stink. So in that light, I don't mind your suspicions at all.

I hope to be cleared by an investigation though, or by us lynching Psychonaut tomorrow and finding him a Sith. But I guess with my luck and all the mob mentality, all the energy I've spent on having him lynched would probably be seen as an elaborate WIFOM attempt.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you think I'm "so scummy", why have you never pursued a case against me?

I accused you around the same time I accused atheotes, based on similar thought processes. When my case disappeared on atheotes, there wasn't much credibility to continuing against you.

However, I am reading that someone has made a big error here, and a Sith Lord will be dead soon enough. I recommend you at least attempt a drain on Niklas to remove his anti-lynch power, and you know what against you know who, Chaotix.

[TinCow]

You're lying. I know who gained the ability last night, and it wasn't you.

And even if it was, it would not have taken up your actions for the night.

Why are you lying, Obi-Wan?

This post, and Psychonaut in general, should be looked into in great depth. To my knowledge, he has not been protected the past few nights, and yet he has not even been attacked. The Sith killed Methos, Beskar, and me in quick succession without hesitation. Why leave a confirmed Jedi Master alive?

This makes today's lynch failure even worse... too many people to lynch and not enough time.

Dun be lynching me.

I was promoted in a write up a while back. Don't see the point of reveaing who I am yet.

How does promotion mean you're innocent?

[Askthepizzaguy]

From what I'm seeing, Niklas' unvote seems to have spared both himself and pevergreen. I believe he should be the first to go.

[Niklas]

From what I'm seeing, Niklas' unvote seems to have spared both himself and pevergreen. I believe he should be the first to go.

For the record, I had no idea what the tally was at the time of my unvote. I also had no idea what the result of a tied lynch vote would mean.

[Renata]

Thank you Chaotix! I had no chance (nor did Niklas, to be fair) of getting freakin' Obi-wan Kenobi lynched without backup like that. I trust any investigators can forget about Psychonaut, then. Dealing with Niklas and/or pevergreen would seem more useful.

Niklas, I'd love to give you credit for your pursuit of Psychonaut, but I can't very easily. There's just as much motive for a mafia teammate of Psychonaut's to act the way you have (since you knew as well as I did that Psychonaut wasn't getting lynched barring something conclusive (and, if you are mafia, that there *would* eventually be something conclusive)) as there is for a suspicious townie to.

[Renata]

For the record, I had no idea what the tally was at the time of my unvote. I also had no idea what the result of a tied lynch vote would mean.

You did know it was tied right at the end of the day; you came online and counted it with five or so minutes to go. That omission aside, the rest is probably true.

Dun be lynching me.

I was promoted in a write up a while back. Don't see the point of reveaing who I am yet.

You're Kyp Durron, it's right up there. Your promotion means nothing; Niklas was also promoted earlier. Nobody's counter-claimed Obi-Wan Kenobi, for that matter. And you've been acting at least as scummy as Niklas has. Niklas is at least trying.

[TinCow]

So, in summary, either Niklas or pevergreen is Sith, likely the most powerful 'boss' Sith. The other is likely innocent. At the same time, Psychonaut is likely Sith as well. The question facing us is not who to lynch, but in what order. An interesting situation.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys do realize that after you kill these Sith lords I will probably be a Sith, right? I'm still a townie! You'll need to lynch me before the game is over! Don't trust me! I'm a big fat liar and I'll slip through your fingers!!! NEVER TRUST ME, EVER!!!! Help! Help! I'm untrustworthy and I can't stop myself from being evil! Put me to a swift death!



I am not entirely sure that's ever been done in a mafia game. Name it after me.

[Renata]

Oh quit being such a drama queen.