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    Round 9

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    Nothing else was found and the crew worked hard and long replacing transformers and other important power grid equipment. The day was nearing night and a tired crew retired to their quarters.

    Kenth Hamner walked the long and empty hallways to his quarters and he was utterly tired. This had been a long day, even if day had no real meaning out here in cold dark space. They lived in day and night cycles which each lasted 24 hours. For some of the crew this was especially hard coming from planet systems which had far shorter day and night cycles. But they were all trained for it.
    He had only the last stretch left when he suddenly sensed danger. Someone was coming up from behind … fast. Kenth Hamner twirled round, lightsaber already ignited. A shadow was speeding towards him at an incredible speed. Kenth drew a small portion of the force to him and released it in the direction of the shadow. The shadow crashed into the propelled force matter and was thrown backwards and landed hard on the hallway floor.
    Kenth Hamner noticed the cloak and the burning amber eyes under a dark hood. This could only be one of the Sith. Kenth was a Master wielder of the lightsaber and positioned himself in a well proven defensive stance. The cloaked person jumped up from the prone position on the floor and landed just outside Kenth’s reach. A sinister voice came from the cloaked person: ”So, you know a few tricks, but that puny push is nothing to my Sith avalanche.” As he said that he went into a crouch and seemed to concentrate. Kenth could feel the force being drawn from all around him into that dark creature crouching before him. Before Kenth could take action, the cloaked person unleashed whatever he had been powering up and Kent felt a rush of wind around him. His body was then thrown through the air with imaginable force. The power was so furious that it tore up walls along the path that Kenth was sailing. It felt as a runaway space craft running into the hallway, pushing everything along its path of destruction. Kenth never felt the impact that crushed his body to pulp before the force tore through the steel wall that had smashed up Kenth’s body.

    Keyan Farlander was ecstatic for being promoted. He had not been long with the Jedi order and being promoted this early could only mean that he was on a path to become one of the great Jedi.
    He had barely finished one of his dreamy imaginations of long Jedi robes and wielding a purple lighsaber, yes he would get a purple one, when he saw a dark and cloaked person blocking his pathway. Keyan stopped abruptly. This could be one of the dreaded Sith they were trying to get rid of. Burning amber eyes were glancing at him from under a dark hood. “Ah, if it isn’t our new Padawan. Too bad you need to go.” And by those words the cloaked person lifted hands into the air and released blue energy which lighted the hallway up in cascading flashing whites and blues.
    Keyan Farlander hit the ground hard, the cells of his body were being destroyed by electricity and he had no means to counter it or object. Kyan Farlander died on that floor in agonizing spasms.


    Den Siva was returning from a previous engagement and was met by a well known member of the crew. Den Siva was a bit surprised, but the member of the crew only wanted to talk about something important. They walked along the hallway towards Den Siva’s cabin. Den Siva was quite tired after the long day and excused himself when they reached his cabin. As Den Siva entered, the crew member seemed to hesitate, then pushed the cabin door open and entered after Den Siva. “I am sorry, but I have to do this. Den Siva felt the cabin spin around him and hit the floor with an agonizing headache. He woke up a bit later not knowing what had happened earlier or that he had talked to someone. And how did he get here?

    Obi Wan Kenobi walked towards his cabin when a well known member of the crew joined him. They talked about this and that along the way. The crew member made a gesture towards Obi Wan who went stone cold and hit the floor like a sack of grain. “I am sorry old friend, but this is necessary.”

    The night passed and it was yet again morning and the start of a new 24 hour cycle. Obi Wan Kenobi had woke up in the hallway and wondered what had happened to him. He found his place in the auditorium and sat there with a splitting headache.
    Qui Gon Jinn entered and declared: We have lost yet two more of our crew. This time, please present a candidate, and a guilty one too when I return. We need to win this people. The Sith can’t best us. The welfare of the universe is at stake here.
    As he was talking, a beam of light appeared in the centre of the auditorium. Two beings appeared and it was Yoda and ... Kenth Hamner? Yoda declared: "Be mindful of the force, it will teach you who to vote for this day." Kenth Hamner just nodded and they were gone, as abrupt as they came.

    Qui Gon made a final statement before he went: "We lost a Jedi Master and a Padawan last night. I am happy to announce that Jorus C'baoth has been promoted to Jedi Master. I would also like to announce that Streen has been promoted to Padawan. Congratulations!!!!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    So this Sith combo are likely an experienced player, likely from CFC, and a relatively new player. Or two semi-experienced players, one originally from CFC and one from .Org.
    Are you suggesting they're Niklas and pever?

    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    It was 7am the day phase just past. So, yeah, way too early for us.
    It's probably less friendly for me. It's physically impossible for me to be online before the deadline of 2 PM, at least on weekdays, as it's about 5-10 minutes before I get home from school. When you add in that I rarely have time to come online in the morning, the closest I can be online before the deadline is usually more than 15 hours prior to it.

    (EDIT: Sees update)

    atheotes and GH are dead? I find it strange for the Sith to kill two of the not-quite-top-suspects-but-still-suspected-guys.

    And who's Den Siva, again?
    Last edited by Choxorn; 04-28-2010 at 23:02.

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    I sincerely hope someone attempted to block, drain, or investigate Niklas last night. If so, what was the result?

    I see two kills again.
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    Default Re: StarWars: Return of the Sith [In Play]

    Looking back through the thread, Niklas is apparently Den Siva, so someone drained both him AND Psychonaut.

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    It looks like Psychonaut was blocked, which would clear him. Niklas appears to have been drained, which, as far as I am aware, is not the same as a role block. That was likely his lynch immunity being removed from him. Since he is now capable of being lynched, and I still believe he is the stronger of the two options for the 'Dark Lord'...

    Vote: Niklas

    Also note this bit in the writeup:

    Den Siva was returning from a previous engagement
    Niklas was active last night... probably busy killing.
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    Sorry, edited a vote post:

    Vote: Niklas


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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Niklas was active last night... probably busy killing.
    Oh yes. That needs to be explained for sure.

    Vote: Niklas.

    I still think it could have been you who was responsible for this, TinCow. Either you or Niklas, IMO.
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    I'm pretty sure TinCow's clean, atpg. The case against niklas seems quite clear. Vote:Niklas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    I still think it could have been you who was responsible for this, TinCow. Either you or Niklas, IMO.
    You think I made the QT post and then blamed it on Niklas?

    NM, I don't even want to know the answer to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    You think I made the QT post and then blamed it on Niklas?

    NM, I don't even want to know the answer to that.
    Yeah, I believe you're capable of that. It's a total compliment.

    But I'm leaning Niklas, and if it is Niklas, then... you're fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    It looks like Psychonaut was blocked, which would clear him. Niklas appears to have been drained, which, as far as I am aware, is not the same as a role block. That was likely his lynch immunity being removed from him. Since he is now capable of being lynched, and I still believe he is the stronger of the two options for the 'Dark Lord'...

    Vote: Niklas

    Also note this bit in the writeup:

    Niklas was active last night... probably busy killing.
    So apparently same thing happened to both of them, yet one was blocked and the other was active???

    You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions there...

    The thing about coming back from a previous engagement was there before, do you really think sigurd would give the Sith away like that? IMO previous engagement can mean quite a lot.

    That doesn't make Niklas innocent but your reasoning looks very flawed to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    So apparently same thing happened to both of them, yet one was blocked and the other was active???

    You seem to be jumping to quite a few conclusions there...

    The thing about coming back from a previous engagement was there before, do you really think sigurd would give the Sith away like that? IMO previous engagement can mean quite a lot.

    That doesn't make Niklas innocent but your reasoning looks very flawed to me.
    The actions were most certainly not the same, there are several significant differences that we've seen in past nights.

    Night 4:

    Count Dooku returned from a previous engagement and was met by a familiar person outside his quarters. “Dooku, we need to talk, let’s enter the privacy of your quarters.” Count Dooku opened the door to his cabin and gestured for the person to enter”.
    The person went in and walked over to the living room of this formerly officer’s cabin. He stood there in the middle of the room waiting. Dooku entered: “What was it you wanted to talk to me about?” The person turned around with an accusing stare. “I am sorry, but I have to do this.” And by those words Dooku felt a terrible pain in his mind. He fell to the floor in agony and everything went dark.
    Dooku later woke up in his bed with a dried up nose bleed. What had happened to him? And why couldn’t he remember how he got to his cabin?
    Beskar confirmed that this was a DRAIN of one of his powers. It matches what happened to Niklas last night.

    It happened again to Keyan Farlander (either atheotes or GeneralHankerchief, not sure which) on N7:

    Keyan Farlander was met by a familiar person on his way back to his cabin. “Do you mind if I follow along, Keyan?” Keyan looked worried, but said: “Yeah, sure.” They walked in silence to the cabin where Keyan said: “This is me, I guess I’ll see you around.” The other person answered: “Actually, I have something I need to discuss with you in private. Can I come in?” Keyan hesitated but gestured to the other person to enter the cabin. As soon as Keyan had entered also, the other person turned around with an accusing look.
    “I need to do this.” Keylan Farlander’s world spinned around and he felt as if his mind was exploding. He fell over and darkness overtook him. He later woke up with a headache and with no recollection of how he had got to his cabin.
    This action is identical to what happened to Niklas and Beskar told us it was a drain of a power. Since in the last day phase there were multiple people talking about how Niklas' lynch immunity should be drained from him, it seems like a pretty basic logical step to assume that is what actually happened.

    As for the block, it also happened before, on N8 to whoever is Belth Allusis:

    Belth Allusis returned to his quarters when he met up with a fellow Jedi. They walked together a little while discussing the resent events, when the other fellow Jedi suddenly made a gesture. Belth went blank and sagged to the floor unconscious. His life vitals were reduced to a bare minimum to keep his body alive. The fellow Jedi hurried back the way they had walked.
    Note that both Belth and Obi-wan are specifically noted as waking up the next morning and barely making it to the meeting. That is very different from what happened to the rest of them. The first power is a drain, the second is a block.

    As for previous engagements, it just means (IMHO) that the person was active that night. As far as I am aware, Niklas has not claimed the ability to do anything at night, and he has a low-ranking role. He shouldn't have any powers that should let him do night actions, so simply being active at all is an indication that he's lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    As far as I am aware, Niklas has not claimed the ability to do anything at night, and he has a low-ranking role. He shouldn't have any powers that should let him do night actions, so simply being active at all is an indication that he's lying.
    I have a tough time placing my vote anywhere else until this part is resolved. I highly doubt I'd be convinced anyway.
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    Most likely (regarding the previous engagement), though I'd really like to wait for the results to come back before drawing any conclusions. (And did Beskar do an investigation that night? I think he did, but I'm not positive.) The only other thing that might account for the difference is if Niklas was targeted twice last night, and one of those didn't show up in the write-up, the way that Beskar's did not. If it counted as a previous engagement for Beskar, possibly it would for Niklas as well. However, anything like that must also wait for Chaotix or someone to come forward with results.

    I have a problem with the idea of what happened to Psychonaut being a roleblock, though. The issue is timing. The night that Beskar died, Chaotix was trying to take a power from him. This failed. Chaotix was shown arriving to find a dead body (effectively). The same thing happened with Atris a few nights later. (Same night as the proposed roleblock happened to Keyan Farlander.) Presumably these then were actions by the same person, and in any case they clearly took place *after* the killings.

    The "roleblock" takes place in the writeup even after those actions. How can it be a roleblock?

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    Niklas is Den Siva, and it states in write up that he was busy last night. I also think that this was a power drain, in the write up. I think he is the Sith Lord.

    Vote: Niklas

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    Just realized something else, Den Siva (Niklas) started as an Initiate and has only advanced to Padawan. He claims the Force Breath Control ability, which prevents a single lynching. That seems like a very powerful ability, too powerful for a Padawan. Since Beskar had that ability, he should be able to tell us what rank that ability was for. If Force Breath Control is an ability of Knight rank or higher, that should be all the evidence we need.


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    Yes, forgot about that, it does seem to be a higher level power. I would think only a Master level.
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    Actually it is padawan level -- Beskar will confirm, but that's information I have from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Actually it is padawan level -- Beskar will confirm, but that's information I have from him.
    Niklas did claim that in-thread as well. I dont think he would have claimed if it wasnt true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Actually it is padawan level -- Beskar will confirm, but that's information I have from him.
    Makes sense. Obi-Wan was still a padawan in Episode I and he used breath control against the Dioxys.
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    Vote: Niklas

    Please give Psychonaut a pass right now.

    The Council of Jedi Masters is experiencing a credibility gap at the moment. I do not trust either Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon right now, because they were both seemingly engaged in the same action two nights ago. Kenth Hamner, however, is to be completely trusted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    As for previous engagements, it just means (IMHO) that the person was active that night. As far as I am aware, Niklas has not claimed the ability to do anything at night, and he has a low-ranking role. He shouldn't have any powers that should let him do night actions, so simply being active at all is an indication that he's lying.
    To me this makes perfect sense. But, waiting for the actual results may be best, because we may be misinterpreting the write-up.

    Now, it seems the Sith really were scared of me. Naaaaw, poor little Sith with their tails between their legs, naaaaaaw. I'm still alive, and I'm keeping my word.

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    Were you roleblocked, Psychonaut?

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    BTW the question of whether or not that was a roleblock should not be answered until Psychonaut has responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Were you roleblocked, Psychonaut?
    I don't know. I didn't use an ability last night. Masters can:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd
    As an upgrade to all Jedi Masters – you can now use two force abilities on the same person, whether it is yourself, against one other or against attackers.
    So I didn't do anything, as I have two defensive abilities. I was waiting for the Sith to attack me. But, they didn't, so I didn't use anything last night.

    I certainly wasn't drained, I still have all my abilities.
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    Default Re: StarWars: Return of the Sith [In Play]

    I think there's been more than enough in-thread evidence to make this the best lynch:

    Vote: Niklas

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    This is getting beyond ridiculous, and extremely tiresome. Not sure how much more fight I still have in me, I guess the day will tell. I will try to restrain myself though.

    I haven't received a PM from Sigurd yet saying what happened to me, I can only assume this is to do with his memory stick problem. But it shouldn't take a genius to figure out that I got what I asked for - that my lynch immunity was drained while I was at the same time investigated, using the Drain Knowledge power that Chaotix used on Beskar. What happened to the result of that investigation? I expected to come here and be redeemed, instead the vultures are gathering once more. Why isn't the result of my investigation made public? There should be at least one person out there who now knows I am not Sith, will you please come forward? If this is not made public, HoS on whoever did that investigation. You are actively fueling a mis-lynch.

    Since Chaotix said Drain Knowledge was a Grandmaster ability, that presumably means Qui-Gon did it. I can understand why you don't want to reveal, but surely there are enough accomplices (like Chaotix) who could relay the information for you.

    I also don't have a clue what "previous engagement" I may have been involved in. I don't have any night actions, so I can only assume that I was either investigated by someone else as well (where's the result of that scan, if so?), or that I was called to the holocron (though this writeup doesn't mention the usual meditating Jedi routine). I eagerly await a PM from Sigurd to find out. But regardless, do you honestly believe that Sigurd would give away a killer in a write-up? I marvel at the collective deductive capacity on display.

    I find Psychonaut's behavior this day just as suspicious as previously, and I honestly think we should take him up on his offer to be lynched. All his WIFOM is beyond suspicious to me. He would definitely have my vote, but with Chaotix asking us to "give him a pass" I don't expect we can pile enough votes on him. I would very much like to know the reasons for letting him be though - why is that not made public?

    I was scanned last night, and Psycho should be spared. That means we should default to the third candidate:

    vote: pevergreen

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    I tend to think Renata - and everyone else - are correct in assuming that Niklas/Den Siva is in fact among the sith. Therefore, I will vote:Niklas. I don't see how it makes him the sith lord, though.

    Looking forward to hearing if Chaotix/Yoda can figure out what powerroles he can and can't trust. The game might depend on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niklas View Post
    I also don't have a clue what "previous engagement" I may have been involved in. I don't have any night actions, so I can only assume that I was either investigated by someone else as well (where's the result of that scan, if so?), or that I was called to the holocron (though this writeup doesn't mention the usual meditating Jedi routine). I eagerly await a PM from Sigurd to find out. But regardless, do you honestly believe that Sigurd would give away a killer in a write-up? I marvel at the collective deductive capacity on display.
    That only came up in mine because i investigated that night, which was Askthepizzaguy.

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    Default Re: StarWars: Return of the Sith [In Play]

    Also, I would like to point out, why does Splitpersonality and Choxorn have a blackened name in the alive list?
    Last edited by Beskar; 04-29-2010 at 11:59.
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