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    Here are my thoughts currently. I know you all probably won't listen to them now, but if I get lynched, please look back over them, once you know I'm innocent.

    Did anyone actually scan atpg? I remember someone saying they'd scanned him as susceptible, but would their scan turn anyone up as outright Sith? I think that may have been Psychonaut's general sense power thing. Speaking of which, what have you found out recently psychonaut? Johnhughthom and centurion1 are both quite suspicious to my mind. Subotan's claimed streen, and therefore is innocent. But if I die today, I'd recommend putting some heat on atpg tomorrow. Chaotix asked him to vote for me if a Diamondeye wagon started. He chose to feed the wagon immediately. I'll look back through the thread, but I don't think he's actually been scanned definitively yet, and even if he has, he may well have been converted.

    I don't know if I'll be back on today, but good luck to the rest of the innocents if I die. You'll need it, given the likely conversion mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    I do have a better method. I am Streen, and I was investigated last night. I am not sure who it was who investigated me, but they will be able to vouch for me when they come online.

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    Since Subotan brought this up himself; this is correct. I scanned Subotan last night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Not this rubbish again. I've had my name cleared what 3ish times, and now you are trying to drag it through the mud, again. Sorry buddy, but I don't see your angle, there's no feasible way for me to be Sith. Diamondeye investigated me, and then didn't try to get me lynched, comprende? Unless we are scum buddies with our BFF necklaces, your insinuation is hollow as a log convention.

    As I see it, and I said earlier, my guess is that the Sith, in the same way Diamondeye does, have two actions, and spent 2 nights ago finding a recruit. That would result in 1 kill two nights ago and 2 last night, because we are once more up against 2 Sith.
    I remind everyone that I blocked and investigated Psychonaut that night. He is not sith.

    I think it's likely that autolycus or john is sith, and that ATPG might have been recruited a night ago. I hope we are still dealing with only one sith but I am not convinced.

    I am going to vote:autolycus and hope that it turns out to be the right thing to do. I have an extremely busy week in school and that annoys the **** out of me when we're entering the final phase of this game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    [edit] Worth noting that a Niklas + autolycus mafia team is a 100% CFC mafia team. That would explain the N1 hit of Husar... no way for them to know that he'd been gone from mafia games for a long time.
    Didn't I mention that in the beginning?

    And why would Niklas have wanted to kill me after I said hello to him so nicely?
    There might have been more sinister reasons, like my denial to join pevergreen's game(even though I like him I would not put that beyond him at all, the game he creates even has revenge in it's name), but then I think this is what you call metagaming(something i never heard of last time I played, same for OMGUS btw) and everybody is going to lynch me now.


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    autolycus, you wait until now to stop posting in a scum manner? That in itself is scummy, lack of consistency and all. But, I won't lodge a vote against you, I'll have to trust my second instinct. Vote: centurion1
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    I have more information about autolycus that is worth discussing. It all comes from this conversation, from several days ago:

    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus
    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus
    I haven't been mentioned yet in the thread. I'm Jorus C'Baoth and wield a yellow lightsaber. I claimed the role to both Diana Abnoba and GeneralHankerchief at the start of the game.
    I haven't been in out-of-thread communication with almost anyone all game long, so I don't have any external data to contribute.
    Sincerely,
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    Why did you claim to Diana and GH?
    It's my standard modus operandi in most mafia games. I try to trade relatively unimportant pieces of info early in the game with a few people to start communication flowing. It hasn't worked as well over here as it did on cfc. The third person I contacted was jolt. He, now split, is *****.
    Diana Abnoba I'd played with before over on CFC, jolt I'd talked to somewhat during Shadow Fort, and GH had a reputation of being a strong and interesting character, so they're the ones I chose to reach out to as I try to establish semi-standard channels here on the .org. Contact me if you have any other questions.
    There are two things to note from his statements. First, autolycus has been attempting to network and get information from people since the start of the game. Second, he claims to be Jorus C'Baoth, who was promoted to Jedi Master after N9. It seems likely that Jedi Masters would have powers that would be useful to the town, so I find it odd that he has not role-claimed as part of his defense. Particularly since his last post included a "I'm going to be away for a while and this may be my last post in my defense" bit. Surely if he was going to mount a last-ditch attempt at defense, a reveal as Jedi Master would have been useful to him...


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    I still say it's Psycho....your denying it all way too much....and we know the Sith can block investigations

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    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus View Post
    Atheotes, it's more a vote against someone who may be attempting to lurk their way to victory. It was also an attempt to pressure him to speak up and it was a vote somewhere else that anyone who believes me to be innocent could join. I'm not going to vote for myself when I know I'm innocent, so I voted for someone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus View Post
    Johnhughthom and centurion1 are both quite suspicious to my mind.

    Yes, autolycus is guilty. Contrary to what psycho says, he has not looked more pro town this past day. If you read over his votes he's just picking up on some in thread suspicions (in this case, atpg random accusation of cent, john, and subo) and making up a reason to vote them. This low key in thread approach is very different from his "pm people at the start of the game, and exchange info in order to get things going" approach.

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    Unvote:, Vote:Autolycus

    If DE will vouch for Subotan...

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    So, you find Psycho's vote of cen1 suspicious as well?

    If Auto is revealed as Sith.....you know who to lynch next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Didn't I mention that in the beginning?

    And why would Niklas have wanted to kill me after I said hello to him so nicely?
    There might have been more sinister reasons, like my denial to join pevergreen's game(even though I like him I would not put that beyond him at all, the game he creates even has revenge in it's name), but then I think this is what you call metagaming(something i never heard of last time I played, same for OMGUS btw) and everybody is going to lynch me now.

    I got plently of people to kill for personal reasons before you.

    OMGUS has been around for ages though.

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    autolycus seemed scummy to me early in the game. It seems to me that he would still be a good lynch. Just my
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    I didn't bother claiming my role (Jorus C'Baoth) in thread because without holocron abilities, it didn't seem to me to matter, especially given that niklas had a cover role. I just got a message from sigurd informing me that my powers did get activated last night. I wish he'd told me sooner, as it would have made me care more. Sigurd, will you confirm that holocron messages got sent out late today? I now have two self-defence powers and healing.
    Sasaki, I tried the message people at the beginning of the game strategy and only jolt gave me a real respons. Without response from others, I reverted to a low-key thread analysis strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    I got plently of people to kill for personal reasons before you.

    OMGUS has been around for ages though.

    I think I should be scanned tonight.
    Actually, Husar might be onto something. First round, I voted Niklas then pevergreen then voted for me saying I killed Husar about something with facebook I still haven't seen or read yet. Which some people used to vote on me with.

    Perhaps pevergreen was trying to protect his scumpartner Niklas and thought of blaming the Husar thing on me, while he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Actually, Husar might be onto something. First round, I voted Niklas then pevergreen then voted for me saying I killed Husar about something with facebook I still haven't seen or read yet. Which some people used to vote on me with.

    Perhaps pevergreen was trying to protect his scumpartner Niklas and thought of blaming the Husar thing on me, while he did it.

    pevergreen needs to die.
    Renata and TinCow disagree.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by White_eyes:D View Post
    Renata and TinCow disagree.....
    I don't like pevergreen's behavior, but this argument is pretty convincing to me. pevergreen needs to be examined by the power roles, but I don't think he's a priority lynch for the reason Renata gave.


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    But I was told by Sigurd how many rounds it would take till, I was WOG. You REALLY don't think that the Sith would not ask what a tie does?? so, I tossed that opinion out the window

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    Of course I asked what a tie would do. That's not the same thing as getting an answer though.

    Oh, what¨now? No, no, nothing. Just carry on, as you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus View Post
    I didn't bother claiming my role (Jorus C'Baoth) in thread because without holocron abilities, it didn't seem to me to matter, especially given that niklas had a cover role. I just got a message from sigurd informing me that my powers did get activated last night. I wish he'd told me sooner, as it would have made me care more. Sigurd, will you confirm that holocron messages got sent out late today? I now have two self-defence powers and healing.
    Sasaki, I tried the message people at the beginning of the game strategy and only jolt gave me a real respons. Without response from others, I reverted to a low-key thread analysis strategy.
    I will not confirm or deny anything. There was a late update in the writeup...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    I will not confirm or deny anything. There was a late update in the writeup...
    I read the first version posted and the version after the edit. I do not recall there being a mention of someone getting a holocron visit in the original write-up, while there is one in the edited write-up. I think that was the thing which was omitted, which would make it consistent with autolycus' claim that he got a late message about a holocron update today.


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    ...Which doesn't tell us anything about autolycus.

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    Unvote:, Vote:DE

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    Do we know if niklas ever got holocronned? Also, I owe an apology to atpg because I said he voted for me, when looking back over the thread, it's clear he didn't. To those who don't think I'm scum, weigh the benefits of a tie vs my death. On the one hand, a tie, if it leads to no lynch, makes no progress, but my death loses some powers for the innocents. Bear those trade-offs in my mind before bringing the vote count close enough together for niklas to swing things.
    Current Vote Total (I think)
    Autolycus-4-Diamondeye, atheotes,johnhughthom, chaotix
    Centurion1-2- Autolycus, TinCow
    Diamondeye-1-YLC
    Subotan-1-Split
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    That tally is wrong.


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    Correct Tally:

    autolycus: 5 (Chaotix, johnhughthom, TinCow, atheotes, Diamondeye)
    Centurion1: 2 (autolycus, Psychonaut)
    Diamoneye: 1 (YLC)
    Subotan: 1 (split)
    johnhughthom: 1 (Subotan)


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    vote: Centurion1

    Come on, can't we make it a tie?

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    voting ended...
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    Vote: Aut... oh wait, voting is over.

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    Round 12

    Night


    The voting session was at end and yet again there was a clear candidate. Qui-Gon Jinn was quite happy about their diligence in finding and rooting out Sith. If they had been successful remained to be seen. Today’s tally keeper gave Qui-Gon proudly the tally. One name stood out among the others. When Qui-Gon saw who the candidate was his mood darkened. It couldn’t be one of the remaining masters. But yet it was and they would now lose a powerful hunter of the Sith. Qui-Gon cursed and phased back and forth. The Padawan tally keeper backed away from the seething Qui-Gon.

    Qui-Gon finally stopped and scanned the gathered Jedi. “Alright Jorus C’baoth, you have been accused of being a Sith and sentenced to death. Now would you please step forward.” The Jedi Knights looked worried when the Master composed himself and got up. Another master had already been on his feet a little while and moved in close to Qui-Gon and whispered something in his ear. Qui-Gon turned and said:”No, that would not be necessary. I don’t think he would make a scene. Would you Master C’baoth?” the ageing Master looked at Qui-Gon and the other Master next to Qui-Gon with stern eyes, but didn’t make a move for his lightsabre. “Good lad, now if you would be so kind to follow us.” The rest of the procedure went as it did last time. The Master went without complain out into space and the body was later recovered and put in with the others in the morgue that were now keeping quite a few members of the crew.

    Qui-Gon was not too sure they had got a Sith this time.
    “Back to work crew!!”

    Night ends at 23:00 GMT+1 (23 hours from now) Tuesday 4th of May. Orders in by 22:00 GMT+1 (22 hours from now)

    Tally:

    autolycus: 5 (atheotes, Chaotix, Diamondeye, johnhugh, TinCow )

    Centurion1: 3 (autolycus, Niklas, Psycho)
    Diamondeye: 1 (YLC)
    johnhugh: 1 (Subotan)
    Subotan: 1 (split)

    Not voting: 4 (ATPG, Centurion1, Choxorn, pever)

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    Lynched:

    a completely innocent name
    TheFlax
    Belisarius II
    Yaseikhaan
    Thermal Mercury
    Greyblades
    Niklas
    White_eyes:D
    autolycus

    Killed:

    Beefy187
    Husar
    Captain Blackadder
    Khazaar
    Csargo
    Ibn-Khaldun
    Methos
    Andres
    Beskar
    Winston Hughes
    Chaotix
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Joooray
    Kagemusha
    Secura
    atheotes
    GeneralHankerchief
    Diana Abnoba
    Yaropolk
    Renata

    Force Ghost:

    Chaotix
    atheotes
    Niklas

    Alive:

    Askthepizzaguy
    Centurion1
    Choxorn
    Diamondeye
    johnhughthom
    pevergreen
    Psychonaut
    splitpersonality
    Subotan
    TinCow
    YLC
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    Hmph


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    Obi-Wan: I was beginning to wonder if you'd got my message.
    Anakin: I retransmitted it to Coruscant, just as you'd requested, Master. Then we decided to come and rescue you.
    Obi-Wan: [looks at his handcuffed hands] Good job!
    Even Obi-Wan senses just how much of a fantastic job the town's doing currently... the only reason that we've bagged a Sith thus far is through metagaming reasons and now we're just lynching townie after townie.

    It didn't require Yoda to figure out Autolycus wasn't Sith.
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