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    BrownWings: AirViceMarshall Senior Member Furunculus's Avatar
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    Default Re: Apple have given up the means of production if true they are doomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    yeah but who wants to run a production line in america ill be honest, we are more lazy, more expensive, and worse workers.
    i'm with Centurion.

    i even gave you guys an article detailing how little of the value of a product lies in manufacture, and how hi-tech companies keep the profits despite the perception of china-takes-all, and all i get is silence!

    you want to live in a run-down peasant tenement in 25 years time, then fine, keeping trying to out-compete china on manufacturing costs, your retirement will be grim.

    if not then invent to crazy new *(^% that other people just have to have in their products, compete or die.*




    * or try to live in the EU where they will raise tariffs and pretend the rest of the world isn't happening whilst demographics nosedive.
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    Default Re: Apple have given up the means of production if true they are doomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    i'm with Centurion.

    i even gave you guys an article detailing how little of the value of a product lies in manufacture, and how hi-tech companies keep the profits despite the perception of china-takes-all, and all i get is silence!

    you want to live in a run-down peasant tenement in 25 years time, then fine, keeping trying to out-compete china on manufacturing costs, your retirement will be grim.

    if not then invent to crazy new *(^% that other people just have to have in their products, compete or die.*




    * or try to live in the EU where they will raise tariffs and pretend the rest of the world isn't happening whilst demographics nosedive.
    Furunclus your foscusing on the wrong things you cannot move all production to cheaper regions its not good strategic thinking it is quite frankly inherently unstable one war or earthquake in whatever country your in and all your production plants are out of action.

    By all means outsource if you have twenty factories keep four or five in US same in Europe rest in Asia spread your into say three key centers in US, Europe and Asia now your really competing but if you outsource all your production and think oh its ok we just keep the research you will get caught and suddenly you wont be able to compete or anything. Obviously you need to invest in more automation in the more expensive regions but that is the price of keeping your business strategically safe
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