Low Gaul morale

**Unintended BM** · 03-10-2010, 07:31

Yeah, I always have huge trouble taking Segesta and the other northern Italian town with the naked dudes on my Roman games, I can only imagine how great they'd be elsewhere. I've used the galatian variant before, but I can only imagine how easy the game would get if I could constantly recruit and retrain them.

**Duguntz** · 03-10-2010, 08:51

And if you really want ZE unit for Sweboz : Worgozez. pitty they're only merc, but they seriously will refuse to die even in front of the stubbornest ennemy! I used them extensively in my sweboz campain... and I ate Romans for breakfest with them! I engaged them just a bit later in the battle, to let the time for the moral to go lower a bit for the roman, and uasualy, with their AO axes and their scary attribute, it's a rout on contact! the same with the Black naked dudes

**seienchin** · 03-10-2010, 09:17

The problem with gaul armies is that they rarely field any notable cavallery and have lots of levies, which are routing fast and by that reduce the morale of the other troops. Everytime I won against the gauls it was because of a mass rout. Esspecially after the death of the general, which is easier to kill, than the sweboz one.
Its the same with camillan roman armies. Their Triarri are insanly powerfull and never rout, except when you rout their rorarii first...^^

**Duguntz** · 03-10-2010, 10:25

but the problem for almost every AI led army is mass rout... even with the grey plague... their phalangitai are unkillable, but kill their general, and surround them fast, and it's almost surely a rout. I don't think it's only a Gaul problem...

**Ca Putt** · 03-10-2010, 11:02

yeah but gauls rout before they are surrounded :/
funnily they rout as soon as their charge wears of, exactly like some roman chronits discribe them.^^
and always remember when facing phalangitai: a surrounded Phalangite is a dead Phalangite.

PS: Wargozez: WIN!

**seienchin** · 03-10-2010, 15:16

Originally Posted by Ca Putt

yeah but gauls rout before they are surrounded :/
funnily they rout as soon as their charge wears of, exactly like some roman chronits discribe them.^^
and always remember when facing phalangitai: a surrounded Phalangite is a dead Phalangite.

PS: Wargozez: WIN!

Exactly. Simply fighting the gaul levies lets them rout. But I have the feeling its the same for the roman levies, but not for most other factions. Phalangitai never rout, when only enganged at the front and so do the sweboz and lusotann.

**Duguntz** · 03-10-2010, 16:02

Well, why complaining about the likelyness of a Gaul rout? the guy's playing as Sweboz, i think it's great! so you need one scary unit to rout the army and one unit of light cav... to play in the routing mass after it! don't complain! you'll see, late in the game when you'll face Maks (if they come up, like they did to me) against phalangitai, now the real sport begin! or when you take the territory near the sauromate, and they decide they want it also... it's scary the casualities them nomad inflict on our disarmoured units... so if you want real sport, wait before expanding, and you'll see that rout is something that happens less often