Low Gaul morale

**Macilrille** · 03-10-2010, 23:03

Well, I think it would have been a stalemate between them all three had he noot foolishly attacked me.

**WinsingtonIII** · 03-10-2010, 23:06

Originally Posted by Macilrille

Well, I think it would have been a stalemate between them all three had he noot foolishly attacked me.

True, but my personal experience has just generally been that even though the Gauls can hold the Romani, Sweboz, Lusos, etc. to a stalemate for quite a while, I rarely see them actively creating an empire larger than Gaul itself and they eventually tend to get absorbed by the surrounding factions. There are obviously exceptions though.

**Macilrille** · 03-10-2010, 23:12

In general I agree, I just like nitpicking. Eventually the Lusos and Sweboz would have shared Gaul.

**Cute Wolf** · 03-11-2010, 19:28

The Gauls should be made a proper use of their Leuce Epos and Sweboz will be a piece of cake...
Too bad, the AI are so stubborn and choose to field 2 units of lugoae instead...

Seriously guys, the only department that Celts outshine sweboz (sightly, Sweboz reigns supreme in the North), are cavalry....

**Vilkku92** · 03-11-2010, 19:47

Hey, you forgot about swordsmen! Gauls get swords earlier than germans, and they come in greater numbers.

Too bad AI doesn't use those swordsmen enough, but focus on Lugoae. I mean, Bataroas are one of the few gaul units that are actually match for Swebos infantry, but now they just rout with the rest of the army. Stupid AI!

**seienchin** · 03-11-2010, 20:18

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

The Gauls should be made a proper use of their Leuce Epos and Sweboz will be a piece of cake...
Too bad, the AI are so stubborn and choose to field 2 units of lugoae instead...

Seriously guys, the only department that Celts outshine sweboz (sightly, Sweboz reigns supreme in the North), are cavalry....

I thought the germanic cavallery and esspecially the celtic german mixed cavallery are far superior to leuce Epos?

**Duguntz** · 03-11-2010, 20:26

They are far superios... the Reidonez are better than Leuce Epos and beats them on every field

**Os-Q** · 03-11-2010, 23:23

German and Celto-German cavalry are also more of a skirmisher and "anti-cavalry" unit than the more general-use Leuce Epos (Celto-German cavalry can wipe out Roman bodyguards for example) however, they don't do as well charging against infantry
They're also a bit more expensive

**kekailoa** · 03-12-2010, 00:37

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

The Gauls should be made a proper use of their Leuce Epos and Sweboz will be a piece of cake...
Too bad, the AI are so stubborn and choose to field 2 units of lugoae instead...

Seriously guys, the only department that Celts outshine sweboz (sightly, Sweboz reigns supreme in the North), are cavalry....

I disagree completely. The Sweboz outshine the Gauls in regular line troops to a certain extent, but not by very much. The Northern Gallic swordsmen can stand up to any line unit the Sweboz produce, while the top-tier armored units like the Carnutes, the Solduri, and the Arverni Arjos are clearly superior to the Sweboz top-tier and line units, not to mention the Gaestae. Cavalry-wise, the sweboz are at a dsiadvantage to the Gauls obviously. Why the Sweboz are so dominant over the Gauls is that they can produce better-quality cheaper troops, and also obviously produce better spearmen and lower-end units. The Gauls have the ability to produce better troops, but economic restraints and AI stupidity tend to hold them back. The Sweboz have the same AI stupidity and economic restraints, but the cheap units that they produce are superior to the cheap Gallic units.

**Duguntz** · 03-12-2010, 07:50

not agree. On a 1 to 1 basis, the clubman of sweboz (wich is a medium unit) eat the Solduri for breakfest! not only, on my own experiance, I kill the Mighty Katas with those clubmen. I mean, Sweboz clearly outshine celts on a unit level. you speak about economics? common, celts have ZE best economics of all northen cultures, while the Sweboz struggle and still winn over numericly superior celt opponant. why? because their units are better!

**Macilrille** · 03-12-2010, 10:30

Which is the fun and "barbaric" part of playing the Sweboz; your economy sucks, you cannot build proper cities and have no stone building- but lots of wood in your forests. But your hardy, warlike and savage people will flock to their warlord's banner to pour out of the north and plunder the weak Wolhoz and Rumi, carrying home a rich booty of trophies, riches, women and slaves, for you may not be able to build cities, but you can take them...

The Gallic elite units are fine, unfortunately the AI does not build them, while the elite German Ferulharjoz should be very expensive, since they were rare. I could never build them anyway. Perhaps the Solduros and Carnutes should be less expensive.