The Whore of Babylon

[Rhyfelwyr]

Isn't it cute when people try to drag christian beliefs into an intellectual debate?

It's like having a worldview centered around the easter bunny, only, you dont get candy :(

WHERE IS MY CANDY, damnit!

Well, it was a debate on Christianity in the first place...

Your problem, Rhyfelwyr, is that your position starts weakly.

You start with (my emphasis) and then go on to draw biased conclusions from woolly metaphors. Since Revelation has long been included in the Catholic bible (usually worth remembering that there are many differing collections used as bibles) one would be tempted to think the Roman Catholic Church doesn't subscribe to your interpretation.

I didn't ever read up on this stuff presuming the RCC was the whore of Babylon, in fact I used to presume it was a Christian church that was just a bit corrupted. The thing is, it doesn't just give obscure whoolly metaphors. If it just said something obscure about an unfaithful church or something generic like that, I would say fair enough, it could mean anything. But it says the beast is a city built on seven hills, the church built on it will be decked in scarlet and purple. As for what the Catholic Church thinks of it, well past theories include that Rome is indeed the beast (since tbh I think people have to twist things to think that it is not), but this beast was only Imperial Rome. Another theory is that Rome is the beast, but that the prophecy speaks of future apostacy within the Roman See. Interestingly, on that last point, there are some quotes from old Popes that certain things which more recent Pope's have done would be a sign that he is the antichrist.

Finally, one wonders why it is important to have the Catholics "defend" their position against your interpretation.

That's what debates are for. So far, my argument has been dismissed mostly on the grounds of Revelation being nonsense, but that doesn't work for Catholics when it's part of their holy scripture.