Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
So God decided that the Roman Church would be good until.... when exactly? 1200? 1382? 1415?
It's just been a story of gradually increasing corruption, gradually spreading it's dominion over the earth. Until we get the apocalyptic finale. *yay*

Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
Calvin's theology is deterministic, if the Church has fallen it is because God has withdrawn his Grace, and for no other reason. Ockham's Razor suggests the proposition is absurd, because it makes a mockery of the divine mind and is needlessly complex.
Far from making a mockery of God, the purpose of election is to show his own glory. Rather than people saving themselves through their own merits, God reveals his power through them. Did God make a mockery of himself when he withdrew his presence from the ancient Israelites? No, but rather in returning to them he showed how entirely dependent the church was on him for its deliverence, even for its daily bread when he fed them manna.