If it wasn't so mean-spirited, it would be funny...

[Goofball]

Every time I think I have seen the height of conservative, moral majority, homophobic hysteria, something new pops up that absolutely leaves me shocked at its stupidity. The gist of it: a lesbian girl wanted to bring a female date to her high school prom in Mississippi. The school told her she couldn't. The ACLU pointed out to the school that yes, in fact, she could. The school then took the only possible action available to right-thinking people: they cancelled prom for everyone.

Awesome.

Note: Sorry if there has already been a topic on this. I haven't been around much lately and have lost touch.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/rich...issippi-cancel

[a completely inoffensive name]

It's Mississippi. What did you expect?

[Fragony]

I doubt she didn't she this coming, guess she feels her sexual identity is the most important thing in the world.

And -1 for that school.

[HoreTore]

I doubt she didn't she this coming, guess she feels her sexual identity is the most important thing in the world.

What's more important to a person than the people you love?

But the other kids at the prom need to be protected, can't risk them being infected with teh gayness!!!11

EDIT: A tiny fun fact about her home town of Fulton:

The sex-ratio in the rest of the US is 1:1, with slightly more males born and slightly more females reaching old age(same as everywhere else). Fulton, however, only has 83.5 males for every 100 females... They can't discriminate lesbians, having a part lesbian population is the only way for the people there to add up!

The choice is between sad, single heterosexuals or happy lesbians.

[Fragony]

What's more important to a person than the people you love?

Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.

[Meneldil]

Mississippi for you. It will soon seceed and become part of Afghanistan anyway.

[HoreTore]

Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.

So.... When faced with injustice, the Fragony way of doing things is to bend over and take teh pain?

No, people need to stand up to injustice. Don't blame the consequences on the victim.

And in case you didn't read the article properly; the straight kids are going to have a private prom with a big sign that says "Gays not allowed", which makes the discrimination legal. So yes, screw the others, only the gay students are hurt by this.

[Fragony]

So.... When faced with injustice, the Fragony way of doing things is to bend over and take teh pain?

The Fragony way is not imposing. When I am not welcome I stay away, why would you want to be there in the first place. But that is like a red cloth on a bull on blitzbitches, they always want what they can't get, and they will wreck whatever is in their way. That is is a much loved old tradition means nothing to them.

And in case you didn't read the article properly; the straight kids are going to have a private prom with a big sign that says "Gays not allowed", which makes the discrimination legal. So yes, screw the others, only the gay students are hurt by this.

Just like every straight sportsman is discriminated at the gay olympics. But I guess that's different, being different and all that but equal when it suits them. They should stop their whining.

[Ser Clegane]

The Fragony way is not imposing.

What exactly was she trying to "impose"?

I did not get the impression that she tried to force anybody else to show up with same-sex dates or that she tried to force any other girls to wear a tuxedo.

Or was she "imposing" the unsightly view of a gay couple?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If she would've been a straight girl and would have taken her best friend(who is girl) to the prom then what would've happened? Nothing...

This prom thing is some American thingy that I just don't understand..

[Fragony]

What exactly was she trying to "impose"?

You know what she tried to impose, we can disagree on wether or not it's a good thing to be so provocative and self-centred. That attitude annoys the crap out of me personally.

[Ser Clegane]

You know what she tried to impose

No - as a matter of fact I don't. Why don't you spell it out?

[Fragony]

No - as a matter of fact I don't. Why don't you spell it out?

HER SEXUAL ORIENTATION naturally. Some people like their traditions, they shouldn't complain can't have everything.

[Ser Clegane]

HER SEXUAL ORIENTATION naturally.

How can she "impose" her sexual orientation by simply showing up with her girlfriend? If she planned show up there waving a protest banner and shouting gay rights slogans I would agree with you, but if simply showing up with your girlfriend already qualifies as "imposing" I think you lost me.

[Fragony]

If she planned show up there waving a protest banner and shouting gay rights slogans I would agree with you, but if simply showing up with your girlfriend already qualifies as "imposing" I think you lost me.

For these people that is exactly what she did. And she did it willingly, to provocate.

[Ser Clegane]

For these people that is exactly what she did. And she did it willingly, to provocate.

What do you mean for "these people". If for "these people" simply showing up is already equivalent to waving a banner and shouting slogans, then perhaps "these people" are the problem and not this girl.

Perhaps "these people" should consider learning some tolerance as part of decent behaviour just as other "people" learned in the past. As long as the girl and her friend do not do anything that would be different from what other couples are doing at the prom I still do not quite see the problem.

[InsaneApache]

There was a case in Scotland recently where a school camping and mountaineering trip was cancelled because a disabled girls mother complained that she couldn't go because the terrain was too difficult for her to manage, due to her disability. I'm sure that made the poor lass popular with her classmates.

Not in the same league as two hot chicks french kissing. Who in their right mind would ban that. Some people would pay good money to see summat like that.

[Fragony]

What do you mean for "these people". If for "these people" simply showing up is already equivalent to waving a banner and shouting slogans, then perhaps "these people" are the problem and not this girl.

Perhaps "these people" should consider learning some tolerance as part of decent behaviour just as other "people" learned in the past. As long as the girl and her friend do not do anything that would be different from what other couples are doing at the prom I still do not quite see the problem.

As I said the people leading the school are idiots, but she is the one being disrespectful of a valued tradition. It doesn't matter how we look at these things.

[Ser Clegane]

she is the one being disrespectful of a valued tradition.

Again, how is she "disrepspectful"? By simply showing up with her date? I thought the tradition is that you have a romantic evening with your date. Perhaps "these people" are disrespecting the tradition by not allowing her to show up with the date of her choice.
I still do not see how the presence of a gay couple is going to ruin the prom. Why would anybody care? "These people" should spend more time on having a good time with their dates than going "OMG teh gays are ruining the prom".

[Fragony]

Again, how is she "disrepspectful"? By simply showing up with her date? I thought the tradition is that you have a romantic evening with your date. Perhaps "these people" are disrespecting the tradition by not allowing her to show up with the date of her choice.
I still do not see how the presence of a gay couple is going to ruin the prom. Why would anybody care? "These people" should spend more time on having a good time with their dates than going "OMG teh gays are ruining the prom".

You are of course right, but you don't see it from my perspective. You agreed with me had she been waving gay rights signs, how exactly is this any different iff prom is traditionally a boy+girl thing? Who is wrong, the one too fixated on old traditions, or the one not respecting these old traditions, that I will leave to you that's a matter of opinion.

[PanzerJaeger]

What cowards.

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.

But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this.

[johnhughthom]

I'm guessing we haven't heard the full story, couldn't she have just turned up at the event with her girlfriend wearing a tuxedo? Do you have to show a photo of what you are going to wear and who you are going to bring? Seems to me she is not some poor little girl who can't bring the love of her life to her school prom, she probably knew exactly what would happed when she "asked" permission.

Don't get me wrong, the school are still pathetic in my book.

[Rhyfelwyr]

But if they allow gay couples to mix with straight people, then they might be influenced and turn gay.

Like when they allowed blacks to have proms on the same night, and the white kids...

Nah, even I'll admit that this is petty. But at the same time there's no need for the leftist moral outrage, she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.

[Fragony]

Nah, even I'll admit that this is petty. But at the same time there's no need for the leftist moral outrage, she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.

^--- that

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash.


This as well.

[Ser Clegane]

the world doesn't have to change just for her.

And again - what exactly would change for the others? How would the prom be in []any[/i] kind different/worse for all the other people if this gay couple showed if with one girl wearing a tuxedo?

Could somebody please point out the key traditional elements of a prom to me? Is "no gay couples" one of these key elements? I thought the key elements were dressing up, dancing closely, planning a nice evening for your date, electing a prom queen, etc. - not sure how any of these things might be negatively affected by this lesbian couple. At least as long as nobody on either side makes a big ruckus of the gay couple coming to the prom. This should not even be a matter of discussion for either side - they should simply go there, like every other couple, behave like every other couple and end of story.

[johnhughthom]

electing a prom queen

Well, I suppose allowing gay couples might change that...

[Ser Clegane]

Well, I suppose allowing gay couples might change that...

How?

[johnhughthom]

Umm, twas a joke. Electing a prom "queen" with guy men might get interesting.

[Ser Clegane]

Umm, twas a joke.

[Fragony]

And again - what exactly would change for the others? How would the prom be in []any[/i] kind different/worse for all the other people if this gay couple showed if with one girl wearing a tuxedo?

Could somebody please point out the key traditional elements of a prom to me? Is "no gay couples" one of these key elements? I thought the key elements were dressing up, dancing closely, planning a nice evening for your date, electing a prom queen, etc. - not sure how any of these things might be negatively affected by this lesbian couple. At least as long as nobody on either side makes a big ruckus of the gay couple coming to the prom. This should not even be a matter of discussion for either side - they should simply go there, like every other couple, behave like every other couple and end of story.

It's just how they see it, nobody is disagreeing with that this is stupid.