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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    What's that?
    Well prom for example. Not so strange they don't like that in Hillbilly-land. She knows it will greatly upset them, that is why she's doing it. The people there aren't ready for this. I don't see the problem, the other kids get their prom, she gets her attention she was looking for, everybody happy. No way the school didn't threaten to call of the prom altogether if she didn't back of. She started rolling on the floor and started screaming, like kids do when they don't get what they want when they want it.

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    If you're going to draw a parallel to a child chucking a tantrum then I'd say it was the school, stamping it's foot and saying "Fine! If we can't get what we want, nobody else gets what they want!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Well prom for example. Not so strange they don't like that in Hillbilly-land. She knows it will greatly upset them, that is why she's doing it. The people there aren't ready for this. I don't see the problem, the other kids get their prom, she gets her attention she was looking for, everybody happy.
    Haha. There isn't some great Lesbian conspiracy to overthrow the straights. She just wanted to celebrate graduating with her partner.

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    No way the school didn't threaten to call of the prom altogether if she didn't back of. She started rolling on the floor and started screaming, like kids do when they don't get what they want when they want it.
    Assumption based on 0 facts.
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    Assumption based on 0 facts.
    But very, very likely. Also very likely that there have been numerous talks with her on how sensitive these things are. She's an activist.

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    Even if she was an activist, which you can't prove so far, what's the problem? If she tried to underline that Mississippi is full of religous nutjobs who hunt down gays for their entertainment, she hit right on the spot.

    Either she simply wanted to go the prom with her date (in which case the school is retard), or she wanted to make a political point and succedeed.

    The fact that 'those people' and their 'tradition' are not any better than muslim fundamentalists and fascists doesn't make them right. Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights (an argument that you bring forth all the time when discussing Geert Wilders), and that's precisely what she did: she stood up for her right to be a lesbian and to have a date without being a pariah.

    Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.
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    To be fair, I don't think we can blame this one entirely on religion. There are plenty of small-minded bigots who don't need the Bible or the Qu'ran to tell them to hate gays. They do just fine on their own...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.
    Going to your school prom isn't a human right, when it's a private function they make the rules, there's no need for social authoritarianism to make everyone conform. Although if the event is funded by the state then I guess the school shouldn't really break its rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Going to your school prom isn't a human right, when it's a private function they make the rules, there's no need for social authoritarianism to make everyone conform. Although if the event is funded by the state then I guess the school shouldn't really break its rules.
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    Sorry, just had to pick myself up off the floor because I was laughing at the classic conservative double-talk you just threw in there. The school, by insisting that only male/female pairs may attend the prom, is the party engaging in "social authoritarianism." The tactic you used is a mainstay in the conservative anit-gay arsenal: trying to make it look like the homosexual community is trying to force everyone to adopt its lifestyle, when in fact, it's the complete opposite. The conservatives are the ones trying to make everyone else conform to their own morality and live life by their rules.
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    it's Mississippi

    There still trying to figure out why there are people with a different skin color than them. Now girls can like girls? I can't imagine what those poor WASPs thinkning it must be hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    (bold added by me)

    Sorry, just had to pick myself up off the floor because I was laughing at the classic conservative double-talk you just threw in there. The school, by insisting that only male/female pairs may attend the prom, is the party engaging in "social authoritarianism." The tactic you used is a mainstay in the conservative anit-gay arsenal: trying to make it look like the homosexual community is trying to force everyone to adopt its lifestyle, when in fact, it's the complete opposite. The conservatives are the ones trying to make everyone else conform to their own morality and live life by their rules.
    I'm just saying that for the folk of Mississipi with their traditional beliefs and what not, the idea of a prom is that heterosexual couples go together like they did in the olden days. Tradition means a lot in these things, it's not like their banning lesbians from the club scene or taking part in public life.

    You might not hold these values, but to the people of Mississipi, demanding lesbians attend a prom is as ridiculous as demanding that straights get to go on gay dating sites (idk if they can, but if they can then it's stupid). If gays are going to be more excluded simply due to the fact that there are more straight people, then that just sucks for them, but it's not their place to call on the government to demand everyone changes their own way of life to suit them (and we are talking about changing their way of life here, people are social creatures, and they have a right to have that respected in their public life, so long as discrimination is ever institutionalised).

    Everyone is saying the school is being petty, but that's all we should do, not force them to change. Well, except maybe in this case if the prom is funded by the gov't, then they have to dance to their tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    The conservatives are the ones trying to make everyone else conform to their own morality and live life by their rules.
    Yes of course, but it isn't any different the other way around. What is wrong with people wanting to live in a conservative society with conservative values, you can always move to a different place, earth is a big enough a place for all of us why look for trouble. It's silly to you and me, but it's how that place is and it's what you can respect when you -yes- don't show respect their views on certain things. Why can't they have that? Why isn't it allowed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Even if she was an activist, which you can't prove so far, what's the problem? If she tried to underline that Mississippi is full of religous nutjobs who hunt down gays for their entertainment, she hit right on the spot.

    Either she simply wanted to go the prom with her date (in which case the school is retard), or she wanted to make a political point and succedeed.

    The fact that 'those people' and their 'tradition' are not any better than muslim fundamentalists and fascists doesn't make them right. Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights (an argument that you bring forth all the time when discussing Geert Wilders), and that's precisely what she did: she stood up for her right to be a lesbian and to have a date without being a pariah.

    Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.
    Rosa parks didn't fight her battles over the heads of others, this girl does, she is self-centred enough to sabotage other peoples prom. Of course she knew this would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Of course she knew this would happen.
    She knew that the schoold would cancel the prom? Great job blaming the girl for a nonsense decision by the school.
    Was there any compelling reason for the school to cancel the event? Would she have jeopardized the event in any way had she shown up with her girlfriend while wearing a tuxedo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    She knew that the schoold would cancel the prom? Great job blaming the girl for a nonsense decision by the school.
    Of course she knew that it's Redneckstan. School wouldn't have had a choice in the first place because of parent pressure. Missisippi is you know, kinda conservative. You don't have to feel sorry for her, she got exactly out of this what she wanted.
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