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Thread: Square Formation
frognastie 01:32 03-16-2010
Currently playing a Russian save & I have noticed that Russian Inf are unable to form squares? is this correct or is it a bug?

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Fisherking 07:20 03-16-2010
In the le Fusil units guide It lists Musketeers and Grenadiers as being able to form squares.

Only the light infantry and militia are not.

So unless there is more to it, it may be a bug.

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frognastie 08:50 03-16-2010
Pretty sure they are musketeers? I will double check though?

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The Stranger 12:33 03-16-2010
nope, they can form square. atleast in my game.

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frognastie 22:23 03-16-2010
hmm?? Tried last night Russian Musketeers cant for some reason in my game?

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AussieGiant 14:28 03-20-2010
If the regiment is under a certain size they will not have enough men to form the square. Check to see how many men you have and post it here. If there is insufficient numbers the square icon will be grayed out.

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Graphic 17:20 03-20-2010
Also make sure it wasn't a change in some mod you're using. Removing the square option would fit with the "Russian soldiers are functionally retarded all throughout history" stereotype that's used to model the Russian faction in most mods.

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Fisherking 19:07 03-20-2010
Russia and mods huh?

Well I don’t think Sheogorath nerffs the Russians.

Go here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...95#post2452695

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The Stranger 19:08 03-20-2010
isnt that true? omg i have to revise my entire perspective!!

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Graphic 19:56 03-20-2010
Originally Posted by Fisherking:
Russia and mods huh?

Well I don’t think Sheogorath nerffs the Russians.

Go here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...95#post2452695
I actually posted in that thread yesterday :)

I'm looking forward to it, but I'm going to wait until he fleshes it out a bit more before I try it.

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frognastie 04:46 03-21-2010
Okay, I think I have found the issue, for some reason my default unit is 40 for inf?

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Graphic 05:17 03-21-2010
Go to graphics options and turn "Unit Size" up higher.

Low - 40
Medium - 80
Large - 120
Huge 160

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The Stranger 12:49 03-21-2010
that should not be the problem and if it is, it is still a bug.

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antisocialmunky 13:43 03-21-2010
Actually below a certain size, the formation doesn't function even if you start at a bigger size.

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Graphic 16:40 03-21-2010
What Munky said. With such low unit sizes it only takes a handful of missing soldiers to kill the square function. But yes it's a bug if they can't do it with 40 men.

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The Stranger 00:28 03-22-2010
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
Actually below a certain size, the formation doesn't function even if you start at a bigger size.
i know... but the size should diminish with the starting size. so if 40 is the standard than 10 should be the least number to form a square...

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AussieGiant 20:18 03-22-2010
Yes it should be proportional to the unit size you select. Unless of course there is some technical issue.

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vartan 21:25 03-22-2010
Originally Posted by AussieGiant:
Yes it should be proportional to the unit size you select. Unless of course there is some technical issue.
Actually, it is proportional. Every time I've played, below a certain fraction, the company couldn't form squares.

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AussieGiant 20:57 03-31-2010
Good to hear vartan. Thanks for the confirmation.

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