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    Ok I'm not asking if it will be included or why it wasn't i just wanna know from what year onwards can we assume that LS was fully or atleast used on a large scale in the roman army?

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    It has been used, but sparsely, from 9 bc, though rarely, as soldiers had to pay for their equipement, no veteran wanted to pay for another armor, until the 3rd century AD (approximatively)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duguntz View Post
    It has been used, but sparsely, from 9 bc, though rarely, as soldiers had to pay for their equipement, no veteran wanted to pay for another armor, until the 3rd century AD (approximatively)
    I thought the Marian Reforms did away with the whole requirement of buying your own equipment?

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    Hmm, this is what I<ve read, years ago. I may have forgot some details, anyway there are mult persons here better suited than me to inform you exactly. I am really sure though, that the LS wasn't widely used before the 1 century AD, and that's why, to answer the question, EB didn't dealt with it in the mod, because the time-frame wasn't significative enough as the game stops (I think?) around 14 ad
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    Do not let Hollywood pervesion of history pollute your view of history. LS was never the singular armour of even legionairres.
    It just looks good and we automatically think "Legion" if we see LS, so Hollywoos, Comics and Asterix use it exclusively. But... not all german tanks were Tigers and not all legionairres wore LS at any time.
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    The question is hard to answer because we don't possess logistics lists for the Roman army, and even if we did, we're not sure how they called LS. Lorica segmentata is the name given to it by historians. We can only extrapolate from archeological finds and pictorial evidence, both with their own pitfalls. If we find more LS than chainmail at a given dig site, it does not necessarily mean that LS was used more often, merely that it was discarded more often. As pictorial evidence we have Trajan's column, which shows all legionaries wearing LS; but the Adamclissi meteopes (which depict the same campaign) also has chainmail-clad legionaries. At best, one can conclude that the artists working on the column thought LS to be the stereotypical legionary armour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    At best, one can conclude that the artists working on the column thought LS to be the stereotypical legionary armour.
    Or at least was far more glorious to behold. the Column was a propoganda tool. Still if it was the sterotypical legionary armor of the time it still makes it over 90 years over the EB end date.

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