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    Well, that is the cat out of the bag, how fantastic... there's no real use denying it, is there?

    It is true, I am the original playwright, seeking revenge because his idea was stolen. When I recieved the Role PM, I had to ask several questions as to what my goals were, and upon finding them out, I decided to ignore them outright and play the game as though I was town. I was apparantly supposed to kill every single player in the game, and to be quite frank... I didn't want to do that. Call it metagaming, call it whatever you like, that's just the way that the cookie crumbled.

    You see, Centurion's answers to my questions essentially came across in a manner I did not wish to play in after the Shadow Fort fiasco (losing the game in two night phases is awesome, right?); I haven't processed a single kill order not out of being lacadaisical or outright bone-idle, but because I didn't want to. I was going to help the town uncover the mafia, and then turn myself over to them at the end, a la taka in Noblesse Oblige.

    Of course, you're probably all going to think that this is WIFOM or just outright bovine excrement, but it's all entirely true; if Centurion won't clarify after my lynch, I'm sure he will tell you at the end of the game how many kills I requested.

    Nevermind, eh? It was good breaking the rules while it lasted! ¬_¬
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    "I am guessing you have investigated me? I know I have been roleblocked the last 3 nights."

    Quote from Beskar. Yes I am an investigator, I may as well reveal because it's blatantly obvious to anyone reading the thread. The question is why would Beskar assume I would have him roleblocked after investigating? His defence is that there has was one kill last night, with him being roleblocked and Secura not killing he can't be mafia. That of course is assuming both are telling the truth. Thoughts?


    Oh, and if there is anyone out there with a defence ability....

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Yes I am an investigator, I may as well reveal because it's blatantly obvious to anyone reading the thread.
    Did I not suggest that you keep your identity secret though, and announce investigation results through proxy? Beefy was suggested and he's dead, yes, but there must be others you've contacted, trust and could have utilised instead?

    The question is why would Beskar assume I would have him roleblocked after investigating?
    He was roleblocked on Night One and Night Two... he might have guessed it would continue, who knows? With the absence of Sasaki and Pizza, Beskie's a prime target for metagaming, you can't deny that.

    That of course is assuming both are telling the truth.
    I don't really have any reason to lie; unlike Shadow Fort where my WIFOM was necessary to help Psychonaut out, there's nobody else on my side in this game, no matter how much I wished to play as such. Lying doesn't benefit anyone and will only serve to confuse you all, which hasn't been my intention. I want the town to win.

    Oh, and if there is anyone out there with a defence ability....
    The second night's writeup suggested that the town might have a second protection role, as someone made the target wear a hard-hat before going on stage for rehearsal. They know you're an investigator and should begin communications with you as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    Did I not suggest that you keep your identity secret though, and announce investigation results through proxy?
    Did you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    He was roleblocked on Night One and Night Two... he might have guessed it would continue, who knows? With the absence of Sasaki and Pizza, Beskie's a prime target for metagaming, you can't deny that.
    He thought I had investigated him as he had been roleblocked constantly, why would he think that if he were innocent?
    Last edited by johnhughthom; 04-10-2010 at 19:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Did you?
    You think I'm misleading you? See an earlier post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    Considering we had a protector role (and the recent write-up suggests there may be another), it's likely that we have at least one detective also; they could easily investigate Beskie overnight and can then inform someone about the results who can reveal to the town without risking the detective's life. Beefy is a reliable proxy for that purpose.
    I can understand that it might be difficult to trust me considering my role, but that's all it was, a role; there is a difference between me playing out a role (by the rules or no) and me as a person.
    Last edited by Secura; 04-10-2010 at 19:31.
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    Unvote; Vote:Secura

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    Another runaway bandwagon on me is awesome. <3
    Last edited by Secura; 04-10-2010 at 19:38.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    You think I'm misleading you? See an earlier post:
    OK, sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    I can understand that it might be difficult to trust me considering my role, but that's all it was, a role; there is a difference between me playing out a role (by the rules or no) and me as a person.
    I would be open to letting you live, as I said though there is no other obvious target. Except Beskar, thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    That reminds me.

    vote: Secura.

    And I wish to invoke my single use ability to vote: Secura a second time.
    Beskar told me you're a bad loser.


    Last edited by johnhughthom; 04-10-2010 at 19:40.

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    I would have been happy to act as proxy, I suppose I was the first you told, and I saved you from being lynched. Oh well, too late now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    I would be open to letting you live, as I said though there is no other obvious target. Except Beskar, thoughts?
    There's no point now, after the public reveal... I'd be dead by the next day phase.

    The mafia now know who I am and are probably aware of the threat I pose, so I'm likely to be killed just as much as you are; I'd prefer that any remaining protectors would keep you safe as it's integral to town victory, and I'll chalk this up as yet another lesson of adjusting to the Gameroom.

    I would suggest that you investigate Beskar... the lynch of atheotes lends some credibility, but you want to be sure no matter what, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    the lynch of atheotes lends some credibility
    Perhaps the mafia didn't know each other. Strangely that often helps mafia rather than hinder them, I have won games as mafia based on not knowing my partner.

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    Since it appears that the vote is between JHT and Secura, I

    Vote: Secura

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Perhaps the mafia didn't know each other. Strangely that often helps mafia rather than hinder them, I have won games as mafia based on not knowing my partner.
    It's a plausible idea, if it wasn't for this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    Two actors meet.......

    Actor1: Where the hell were you!
    Actor2: I couldn't get there this time. don't worry you still took care of it.
    Actor1: yeah well don't do it again, ok.
    Actor2: Whatever.
    This would suggest that the mafia know one another, as one person is chastising another for not doing what he was supposed to; I interpreted this as one of the mafia failing to process their night order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Secura is a serial killer

    Vote: Secura.

    Lynch me next if I'm wrong. I'm curious TM, did you not believe me or do you have another reason not to vote Secura.
    I forgot about that, I was rather focusing on the other part of the message where you were explaining what was missing.

    vote: secura

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    Default Re: Shakespearean Mafia [In Play]

    Athelotes was mafia, Secura is..

    may we have an early victory? Fingers crossed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury View Post
    Athelotes was mafia, Secura is..

    may we have an early victory? Fingers crossed
    Secura isn't Mafia, at least not according to the info we have. SK isn't Mafia. Let's not be too premature chanting about our victory.
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    TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlax View Post
    Secura isn't Mafia, at least not according to the info we have. SK isn't Mafia. Let's not be too premature chanting about our victory.
    Oh, I didn't even read properly..

    lmao...

    sorry.

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    Yups, I'm the playwright, seeking vengeance, yada yada yada.

    The town would still have to lynch me to win, however; I was going to utilise what abilities I have to nail the mafia and then hand myself over, so to speak. Karma's a female dog, though.
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    Vote Secura

    SKs are always a dangerous thing to have lurking around in these kind of games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder View Post
    SKs are always a dangerous thing to have lurking around in these kind of games.
    Yup, that's totally why I've been night-killing every single phase...
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    However it is far better to knock off a sk then it is to kill off a pure townie. Even if you have not being killing your ultimate objective is to get rid of us all and we only have your word that you were going to give yourself at a latter stage.


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    Write Up Day

    Pug (touching his forelock): I come to you now guv' bearing news of the utmost importance.
    Steven (seated on his throne and seen resplendent by all): *turns red in embarrassment* What the hell are you doing here you imbecile im taking a dump!!!!!
    Pug: A dump, guv'?
    Steven: Its Called taking a **** in some circles you nincompoop
    Pug: Well why aint yah doing it like normal folk?
    Steven (getting up): *sigh* never mind. what do you want.
    Pug: I has some information i be thinking everyone should know.
    Steven: and what is that?
    Pug: I'd like to say to everyone guv'
    Steven (exasperated): Fine, Ryan!

    Carl: *sigh* Yes Uncle?
    Steven: Fetch the crew to hear what this buffon has to say.
    Carl: Right Away, sir

    Carl departs with a final curious look at Pug

    A few minutes later Carl has gathered the entire crew and they are all waiting expectantly.

    Steven: So Pug what do you have to tell us?
    Pug: Wells sir it be apprentice playwright Secura.
    Steven: Yes what about her.....
    Pug: She's got a diary sir--
    Steven: Wait let me cut you off there, why do you know about this diary.
    Pug: Well i was in her room......
    Steven: why were you in her room????
    Pug: I uh uh uh

    Beskar comes striding out already established securaly as Steven's new sycophant.

    Beskar: I can vouch for Secura's moral character. She's my bestest buddy in the whole wide world.
    Secura: Thanks Beskie!!!!!!

    Pug: But sir it be true i has the journal here.
    Steven: did you read it?
    Pug: I cant's read sir.
    Steven: but your actor with a script.......... never mind give it here.

    Steven sets to reading the journal.......

    awhile later....
    Steven: well it appears that secura is in fact a murderous harpie who wishes us all dead for allowing good old will to "steal" her work.
    Beskar: Oh well in that case, vote: secura
    Secura:Et tu Beskie!

    Secura: Yes it was me i admit it. I really actually wanted to help the crew though i swears it, i wants to protect my precious......
    Steven: I'm sorry but how can a psychopath ever not end up being a psychopath.
    Steven: Ryan take her away!

    Carl approaches her warily. Secura begins to run away.

    Secura: NO!!!!! i won't be unfairly lynched again!!!!! I just want to be a normal girl........
    Carl: come along i'm to dispose of you.
    Secura: NEVER!

    With that Secura threw herself from the LEDGE!

    Carl (walking down the stairs): Secura, its only like a five foot stage.
    Secura: Dam.

    The chase continues. Suddenly as they run outside a boy on a flying bicycle with a strange creature in the front seat runs them over.

    nah not really. they got hit by a carriage.

    Steven heard the news that he lost another assistant

    Steven: Crap Ryan's dead. Who wishes to be my new assistant!

    The crew backs away nervously knowing the fate of the previous two.......


    Secura (lynched): SK confused scum

    Slashandburned (wogged): townie

    everyone remember to vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post

    Secura (lynched): SK confused scum
    ¬_¬
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    Default Re: Shakespearean Mafia [In Play]

    sorry.

    tbh i thought you had a more devious purpose when you never sent any orders or used your special......

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    LOL, nailed two roles right off, still have a bit of it left. Well, I'll stake my life right now on Beskar being neutral, although he does sound similar to Netherworld and a few past games, we should wait and watch. Apparently, the mafia need to send in same orders for it to get processed, so it's possible one of our more inactives is the final mafia.

    But, then I thought Atheotes was innocent, so maybe I should just assume that anyone I think guilty is innocent, and those I think innocent are guilty. Either way, Beska'rs still agood lynch if all else fails, as he's always helpful.

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    Captain Blackadder is posting a bit more than usual, plus his posts are more helpful and game relevant than usual....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury View Post
    Captain Blackadder is posting a bit more than usual, plus his posts are more helpful and game relevant than usual....
    It's plausible to believe that he recieved a good role in this game, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    It's plausible to believe that he recieved a good role in this game, then.
    Yes it is. Good for him, but perhaps not for the majority of us the remaining players...

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    If it wasn't for him voting atheotes, I would probably end up with suspicions on him due to yours and Secura's post, TM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury View Post
    Captain Blackadder is posting a bit more than usual, plus his posts are more helpful and game relevant than usual....
    In actual fact it is because I have realised I have falling into a pattern of unhelpful townie and I should change that.


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