Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink View Post
I think you misunderstood what I mean and it's my bad for using naive as the adjective. It still fits, but the better word would be a simple non determinism (a la Lucretius). Human actions aren't caused or influenced by anything, including "rational" considerations. I was just answering your question.

Of course, one could then argue that this kind of model doesn't allow for free will either, as their is no choice anyway (it is 'random' for lack of a better term).

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God.
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i already though so. no worries.

anyhow, if god determined everything, than he is the cause of human actions right?