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    Default Sweboz Battlefield Tactics, AKA "Quinqtillus Varus..."

    Now, first time I played Sweboz I played them much as I played Rome and though I managed to win I have since refined my tactics, largely thanks to Duguntz’ talking of ambushes. I may not be the best to pen down this advice, as there are much better tacticians on the forum than I. However, they have kept silent, so if I start we can hope they peep up as replies.

    Definitions:

    LI = Line infantry, infantry with some armour and a shield, often spearmen.

    SI = Shock Infantry, infantry with little armour, but high shock value, Clubbers and Lugian Swordsmen are examples. Their role is much the same as…

    FI = Fright-Infantry, infantry that scares enemies, often with little armour or even a shield, relying on shock affect and lethal weapons to kill or rout enemies, Falxmen, Skadugangaz, Wodanaworgaz or the naked Celts.

    Mi = Missile, Skutjonez, Medininkas, Iaosatae, do not bother with others in the north and Skutjonez only until you can build Medininkas.

    HI = Heavy Infantry, apart from your FM, mostly something you dream about, infantry with metal armour and shield, FMs & Ferulharjaz. Sweboz FMs should not languish in cities, but you also need rulers to heighten your income as Sweboz economy generally is troublesome.

    Ca = Cavalry, most of the game you can only dream about Heavy Cavalry, so we will not include them, Ridaharjoz and Leuce Epos mostly, best for circling and throwing javelins at enemies backs then charging wavering units.

    Notice that I do not use skirmishers as Sweboz, in effect they are just worse Line Infantry. So I see no need to, as Getai and Romans I do use them.

    The Sweboz’ strengths are Morale, Fear and dishing out damage, my tactic emphasizes this.



    On the strategic map you should always- always end movement in ambush in woods; always!! Even if it means that you are not moving maximum movement at all. Thus I shall assume that all battles take place with some woods to hide in on the battle map. Aim for defensive battles (it is pretty hard to pull of Ambushes if the enemy is defensive).

    My stacks are most often full or near to it, and contain the following:
    • 1-4 HI (minimum 1 FM)
    • 2-4 Mi vs other barbs, 1-3 vs SPQR
    • 2- 3 Ca
    • 2- 4 FI
    • 2- 4 SI
    • Rest LI, minimum 8!

    I usually set up line of Line Infantry and Heavy Infantry with Missiles in front and two scary units behind and the cavalry behind on the flanks, or hiding somewhere.

    Like this


    -Mi-----Mi-------------------Mi------------
    ---HI—LI—LI—LI—HI—LI—LI—LI—HI---
    -------------------No units-----------------
    --FI-----------------SI-----------------FI—

    This one assumes that the Cavalry is hiding somewhere else. Notice the slight overweight of missile on the left flank to better shoot behind the enemy shields.

    This formation should be in formation, defensive/guard mode and with Fire At Will on, except the FI and SI behind the line and not in guard mode. Missile should either FAW or target specific enemy formations depending on circumstances (for more see the Guide to Archery).

    Meanwhile, hiding in woods nearby you keep your cavalry hiding and elsewhere you hide 2- 3 SI and/or FI. Cavalry with Skirmish Mode and FAW off, so they do not reveal themselves. The hiding infantry should also have FAW off and if at all possible be in a flanking position to the guys attacking your main line.

    Like this.



    X
    X
    X




    ------------Enemy Line-----------
    -----------Main---Line----------
    Hope you see what I mean.
    Notice that this means setting up back, no heroic charges here. They are too costly.

    As the enemy close, your missile pull back through your line to the space left there for them, when they have used app. 75% of their missiles, stop firing. This is pretty important as Sweboz, you shall see later why.

    As the enemy closes your men will discharge javelins and cause losses. Keep in Guard Mode as the lines engage and the hand to hand starts. Meanwhile, move your cavalry behind the enemy line to shower them with Javelins or have them pick off the enemy general with javelins if he has not engaged yet (against the stupid AI, he will have charged at this point usually and is being killed by your infantry- even the best cavalry cannot last in melee against the Sweboz, especially if at this point you let the SI behind the line charge in with their clubs or large swords and cut him to shreds or club him to goo.

    Your men will not tire much by this while the enemies will. The next is a point of timing, but…
    When the enemy has started to waver because of losses, exhaustion and your FI (which can start to circle just before this point), you reveal the hiding SI and charge them in from a flank or behind the enemy. Just before this happens, you change from Guard/Defensive Mode and attack, also charging your FI in (from behind your line or a flank if you have used them to circle) and letting your archers rain fire on the enemy. The combined effects of this will rout anyone pretty soon thereafter.

    This simple tactic will take care of most of your battles. If the enemy keeps defensive, move the formation forwards and re-hide the SI behind the line at first. See if your missiles can lure them to an attack by shooting at them. If they can, see above, and if not, move your cavalry and SI behind or flanking the enemy. Then charge with everything but the missile (now changing to Fire-Arrows) and FI who you keep for effect just behind the fighting line and time their charge at some wavering enemy. More bloody, but such is always the attacker’s lot.

    I have not fought Steppe armies with the Sweboz, so I cannot say for certain how to deal with them, but I would imagine setting up in woods for protection (you are lightly armoured) and ambushing them with hidden units is imperative for success. As is a heavy emphasis on your own missile troops, I suspect.

    If you succeed in a true Ambush on the long enemy marching column, I have found that hiding the Ca, SI and FI opposite the main line and only charging them in as the enemy has engaged your main line is the best way to go; so basically a variation of the above.

    Against a Human player, who would know that the woods on the battlemap are full of Ambushes and send Skirmishers and Skirmisher Cavalry to scout I would set up one or two fake ambushes and let him find them as a way of lulling him into a false sense of security before springing the real one.

    This should give you the groundwork to make Augustus bang his head against the walls ;-)
    Good luck or RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGHHHH!!!!!

    An example of how to do it and how not to do it:
    63 Germanicus, however, followed Arminius as he fell back on the wilds, and at the earliest opportunity ordered the cavalry to ride out and clear the p351level ground in the occupation of the enemy. Arminius, who had directed his men to close up and retire on the woods, suddenly wheeled them round; then gave the signal for his ambush in the glades to break cover. The change of tactics threw our horse into confusion. Reserve cohorts were sent up; but, broken by the impact of the fugitive columns, they had only increased the panic, and the whole mass was being pushed towards swampy ground, familiar to the conquerors but fatal to strangers, when the Caesar came forward with the legions and drew them up in line of battle. This demonstration overawed the enemy and emboldened the troops, and they parted with the balance even.

    Shortly afterwards, the prince led his army back to the Ems, and withdrew the legions as he had brought them, on shipboard:19 a section of the cavalry was ordered to make for the Rhine along the coast of the Northern Ocean. Caecina, who led his own force, was returning by a well-known route, but was none the less warned to cross the Long Bridges as rapidly as possible.20 These were simply a narrow causeway, running through a wilderness of marshes and thrown up, years before, by Lucius Domitius;21 the rest was a slough — foul, clinging mud intersected by a maze of rivulets. Round about, the woods sloped gently from the plain; but now they were occupied by Arminius, whose forced march along the shorter roads had been too quick for the Roman soldier, weighted with his baggage and accoutrements. Caecina, none too certain how to relay the old, broken-down bridges and at the same time hold off the enemy, decided to p353mark out a camp where he stood, so that part of the men could begin work while the others accepted battle.

    64 Skirmishing, enveloping, charging, the barbarians struggled to break the line of outposts and force their way to the working parties. Labourers and combatants mingled their cries. Everything alike was to the disadvantage of the Romans — the ground, deep in slime and ooze, too unstable for standing fast and too slippery for advancing — the weight of armour on their backs — their inability amid the water to balance the •pilum for a throw. The Cherusci, on the other hand, were habituated to marsh-fighting, long of limb, and armed with huge lances to wound from a distance. In fact, the legions were already wavering when night at last released them from the unequal struggle.

    Success had made the Germans indefatigable. Even now they took no rest, but proceeded to divert all streams, springing from the surrounding hills, into the plain below, flooding the ground, submerging the little work accomplished, and doubling the task of the soldiery. Still, it was Caecina's fortieth year of active service as commander or commanded, and he knew success and danger too well to be easily perturbed. On balancing the possibilities, he could see no other course than to hold the enemy to the woods until his wounded and the more heavily laden part of the column passed on: for extended between mountain and morass was a level patch which would just allow an attenuated line of battle. The fifth legion was selected for the right flank, the twenty-first for the left; the first was to lead the van, the twentieth to stem the inevitable pursuit.

    p355 65 It was a night of unrest, though in contrasted fashions. The barbarians, in high carousal, filled the low-lying valleys and echoing woods with chants of triumph or fierce vociferations: among the Romans were languid fires, broken challenges, and groups of men stretched beside the parapet or staying amid the tents, unasleep but something less than awake. The general's night was disturbed by a sinister and alarming dream: for he imagined that he saw Quintilius Varus risen, blood-bedraggled, from the marsh, and heard him calling, though he refused to obey and pushed him back when he extended his hand. Day broke, and the legions sent to the wings, either through fear or wilfulness, abandoned their post, hurriedly occupying a level piece of ground beyond the morass. Arminius, however, though the way was clear the attack, did not immediately deliver his onslaught. But when he saw the baggage-train caught in the mire and trenches; the troops around it in confusion; the order of the standards broken, and (as may be expected in a crisis) every man quick to obey his impulse and slow to hear the word of command, he ordered the Germans to break in. "Varus and the legions," he cried, "enchained once more in the old doom!" And, with the word, he cut through the column at the head of a picked band, their blows being directed primarily at the horses. Slipping in their own blood and the marsh-slime, the beasts threw their riders, scattered all they met, and trampled the fallen underfoot. The eagles caused the greatest difficulty of all, as it was impossible either to advance them against the storm of spears or to plant them in the water-logged soil. Caecina, while attempting to keep the front intact, fell with p357his horse stabbed under him, and was being rapidly surrounded when the first legion interposed. A point in our favour was the rapacity of the enemy, who left the carnage to pursue the spoils; and towards evening the legions struggled out on to open and solid ground. Nor was this the end of their miseries. A rampart had to be raised and material sought for the earthwork; and most of the tools for excavating soil or cutting turf had been lost. There were no tents for the companies, no dressings for the wounded, and as they divided their rations, foul with dirt or blood, they bewailed the deathlike gloom and that for so many thousands of men but a single day now remained.

    66 As chance would have it, a stray horse which had broken its tethering and taken fright at the shouting, threw into confusion a number of men who ran to stop it. So great was the consequent panic (men believed the Germans had broken in) that there was a general rush to the gates, the principal objective being the decuman, which faced away from the enemy and opened the better prospects of escape. Caecina, who had satisfied himself that the fear was groundless, but found command, entreaty, and even physical force, alike powerless to arrest or detain the men, threw himself flat in the gateway; and pity in the last resort barred a road which led over the general's body. At the same time, the tribunes and centurions explained that it was a false alarm.

    67 He now collected the troops in front of his quarters, and, first ordering them to listen in silence, warned them of the crisis and its urgency:— "Their one safety lay in the sword; but their resort p359to it should be tempered with discretion, and they must remain within the rampart till the enemy approached in the hope of carrying it by assault. Then, a sally from all sides — and so to the Rhine! If they fled, they might expect more forests, deeper swamps, and a savage enemy: win the day, and glory and honour were assured." He reminded them of all they loved at home, all the honour they had gained in camp: of disaster, not a word. Then, with complete impartiality, he distributed the horses of the commanding officers and tribunes — he had begun with his own — to men of conspicuous gallantry; the recipients to charge first, while the infantry followed.

    68 Hope, cupidity, and the divided counsels of the chieftains kept the Germans in equal agitation. Arminius proposed to allow the Romans to march out, and, when they had done so, to entrap them once more in wet and broken country; Inguiomarus advocated the more drastic measures dear to the barbarian:— "Let them encircle the rampart in arms. Storming would be easy, captives more plentiful, the booty intact!" So, at break of day, they began demolishing the fosses, threw in hurdles, and struggled to grasp the top of the rampart; on which were ranged a handful of soldiers apparently petrified with terror. But as they swarmed up the fortifications, the signal sounded to the cohorts, and cornets and trumpets sang to arms. Then, with a shout and a rush, the Romans poured down on the German rear. "Here were no trees," they jeered, "no swamps, but a fair field and an impartial Heaven." Upon the enemy, whose thoughts were of a quick despatch and a few half-armed p361defenders, the blare of trumpets and the flash of weapons burst with an effect proportioned to the surprise, and they fell — as improvident in failure as they had been headstrong in success. Arminius and Inguiomerus abandoned the fray, the former unhurt, the latter after a serious wound; the rabble was slaughtered till passion and the daylight waned. It was dusk when the legions returned, weary enough — for wounds were in greater plenty than ever, and provisions in equal scarcity — but finding in victory strength, health, supplies, everything.

    Edited to add, strategically you want to get the settlements that can produce Medininkas, Kludda Lugiae and Skaudagangaz ASAP and build them to a level where you can produce these for use on the battlefield.
    Last edited by Macilrille; 03-23-2010 at 12:14. Reason: Oups, should be QuinCtillius, oh well...
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