Sweboz Battlefield Tactics, AKA "Quinqtillus Varus..."

[athanaric]

You can't hit the mighty Horse archers in real open field combat!!!

You can. Advance Roman-style with a charge-proof checker-board system under heavy cover fire. Hit their HAs with foot archers, and the Noble HAs with slingers. Bring some Skythian HA mercs of your own, and one or two units of Teceitos, falxmen, or clubmen to take out their FMs (who are immune to arrows).

[Cute Wolf]

You can. Advance Roman-style with a charge-proof checker-board system under heavy cover fire. Hit their HAs with foot archers, and the Noble HAs with slingers. Bring some Skythian HA mercs of your own, and one or two units of Teceitos, falxmen, or clubmen to take out their FMs (who are immune to arrows).

A must to draw their fire, as if the HA concentrate firing in foot archers, due to the system, the footmen will be devastated... (foot archers- HA ratio in EB are too small)

[Dumnotauros]

I'm sorry to open again an old discussion, but I'm wandering about those units that are mentioned above:
Skadugangaz
Wodanaworgaz
Vojinos
Tindanotae
Gaizaz Alje
I've never saw them in any EB1.2 campaign.. I'm playng a Sweboz campaign now and I' ve conquered a lot of provinces, but I still cant find those units... Instead other units like Worgozez and Woithiz Watha are present in the game but not in the recruiment viewer (wich I still not understand how use it preperly yet).
Do somebody know something abuot it? I mean, is the game or RV that not work proprly or I'm missing something?
Thank in advance to anyone hwo could dissipate my doubts..

[d'Arthez]

I think most of the units have been renamed in 1.2. Hence the names in this thread may have changed. Bear in mind I am not a Sweboz player, so there could be a mistake or two in here.

http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.ne...hp?mp=unitlist
is quite useful to check as well.

Skadugangaz = Germanic Naked Spearmen - Silengolandam only.

Wodanaworgaz = Worgōzez (Wild Mercenary Infantry) ?? - Not available for MIC recruitment. Can't remember if they have been dropped or are as the name implies mercenaries only. I think the latter.

Vojinos = Slavic Light Spearmen. In the Baltic (from Venedu Tauta onwards)

Tindanotae = (Mercenary) Gallic "Naked Fanatic" Infantry. Mercenaries

Gaizaz Alje = Celto-Germanic Spearmen. Lugouw, Nervae-Belgae and other Celtic lands.

[Ca Putt]

Tindanotae are actually the Galatian version of the celtig naked fanatic.

for the rest d'Arthez is totally correct^^

[Cambyses]

Sweboz units get a big bonus in woods, I dont think it will matter too much which units you actually use if fighting Romans in a forest...

About the skirmishers, I found them to be a great value for money unit. When the enemy has been weakened or tired then skirmishers can even fight the enemy in hand to hand, especially in the woods... At the start I had as many skirmishers as line infantry, later I dropped to 1/3.

I would prefer to use better troops, but until the economy is very strong having skirmishers is a good way to bulk up the army without going broke. Also its more historical :)

[mikepettyrtw]

Just started my first Sweboz(In EB) campaign on VH camp difficulty. Now in 264BC. Some good stuff. Here is a good strategic tip:
Don't assault cities after your first 2 years; wait until they sally: battles are way more fun! I found myself trying to remember Hannibal's plan for the battles of Trebia, Lake Trasimene and Cannae. Think of Hannibal's campaigns and you will do well and will maximize your fun. I found this campaign fun very fast. The first 2 years are rough as you have to assault cities so you don't go 40k in debt (I started economic recovery at about 35k in debt). But after that, its amazing to see Eleutheroi stacks get monstered by the same army with the same commanders over and over again. Its amazing to see such a simple starting army (spearmen and FM) take 7 cities. This campaign really tests your tactical know how as early on you have one basic army with no more than 3 different units in it. I am also amazed at the moral of German troops. I could not do the same things with Roman troops. I look forward to more battles!
PS. Put all your FM in one stack, and combine all troops. Its the bee's knee's!