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Actually, everything was fine before... just fine as usual... but recently, I consider to getting more involved in the Church activity, after someone points out that I almost never had any "real" friends in the church, outside my university mates, that was rarely attend the church now, and just recently, the evangelist pay me a visit, and he ask me to be more active at the church...
But here is the problem, I agreed to help them in some jobs... and everything goes fine... until I forgot to log off my laptop there, and some curious kids (!real children at the sunday school!) opened the windows explorer.....
And they found out my (previously well-hidden) personal collection of porn.... a special partition on the Hard disk, really a lot of pictures and video collections... worth of almost two years browsing downloading and collecting them... as well as some that my friends kindly share...
Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
Yeah.. it was basically : Jesus dies for your sins... and you can't just erase all your porn? Well - Well, I know that I wasn't addicted with porn in any serious measures... but he keep asking me to proof that I allready erase them, and you could bet that erasing them ain't an easy job....
I think it was normal for a young man to keep some adult material for his private amusment... but they said that even only watching them is a sin equal to real adultery...
I really need someone Christian who could give me some insight of what should I do with all my porn collections... As Easter is going near and I didn't know should I commit myself into erasing all my porns? And what should I pray to made me easier forgetting them?
Did sometimes watching porns is tolerated in proper Christian life?
Thanks...
*. PS: I really need advices from fellow Christians... so don't bring another pov's arguments here...
Actually, everything was fine before... just fine as usual... but recently, I consider to getting more involved in the Church activity, after someone points out that I almost never had any "real" friends in the church, outside my university mates, that was rarely attend the church now, and just recently, the evangelist pay me a visit, and he ask me to be more active at the church...
But here is the problem, I agreed to help them in some jobs... and everything goes fine... until I forgot to log off my laptop there, and some curious kids (!real children at the sunday school!) opened the windows explorer.....
And they found out my (previously well-hidden) personal collection of porn.... a special partition on the Hard disk, really a lot of pictures and video collections... worth of almost two years browsing downloading and collecting them... as well as some that my friends kindly share...
Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
Yeah.. it was basically : Jesus dies for your sins... and you can't just erase all your porn? Well - Well, I know that I wasn't addicted with porn in any serious measures... but he keep asking me to proof that I allready erase them, and you could bet that erasing them ain't an easy job....
I think it was normal for a young man to keep some adult material for his private amusment... but they said that even only watching them is a sin equal to real adultery...
I really need someone Christian who could give me some insight of what should I do with all my porn collections... As Easter is going near and I didn't know should I commit myself into erasing all my porns? And what should I pray to made me easier forgetting them?
Did sometimes watching porns is tolerated in proper Christian life?
Thanks...
*. PS: I really need advices from fellow Christians... so don't bring another pov's arguments here...
Erase it all!
The Ten Commandments are not like the laws of a temporal king, which only govern a person's outward actions for the good of society. God's commandments look beyond that and into a person's heart, as Paul says, the "law is spiritual" (Rom 7:14).
Jesus even gave an example of this specifically on the matter of adultery. "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Mat 5:27-8).
So everytime anyone watches porn, they are breaking the seventh commandment as surely as if they had broken their marriage vows.
The Ten Commandments are not like the laws of a temporal king, which only govern a person's outward actions for the good of society. God's commandments look beyond that and into a person's heart, as Paul says, the "law is spiritual" (Rom 7:14).
Jesus even gave an example of this specifically on the matter of adultery. "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Mat 5:27-8).
So everytime anyone watches porn, they are breaking the seventh commandment as surely as if they had broken their marriage vows.
There were 3 crosses, XX&X
Well, watching porn, or rather indulging in selfish gratification, is clearly a Sin, but then so it eating lots of Chocolate. So technically you should delete all the pron and sleep with your thumbs tied to your chest.
On the other hand, if you're just going to start downloading more porn on Monday then there's really no point and, honestly, I think God is less concerned about this than other things you might do. He'd probably rather you watch porn than, say, sleep with prostitutes.
On the other hand, if you're just going to start downloading more porn on Monday then there's really no point and, honestly, I think God is less concerned about this than other things you might do. He'd probably rather you watch porn than, say, sleep with prostitutes.
Donate it to the Skullhead Foundation before erasing it is the best thing to do.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
On the other hand, if you're just going to start downloading more porn on Monday then there's really no point and, honestly, I think God is less concerned about this than other things you might do. He'd probably rather you watch porn than, say, sleep with prostitutes.
All sins are weighted equallyOn the other hand, if you're just going to start downloading more porn on Monday then there's really no point and, honestly, I think God is less concerned about this than other things you might do. He'd probably rather you watch porn than, say, sleep with prostitutes.
God was much more strict those days. Nowadays, he's much more hippie, liberal type of character.
Enjoy your porn.
Enjoy your porn.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
All sins are weighted equally
Did you guys have a merger or something?All sins are weighted equally
It isn't adultery when the actors are unmarried, amirite?
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
All sins are weighted equally
This is true in the sencse that all Sin seperates man from God, but in the more concrete sense it is patently false. If you really believed all Sins were equal you would spend as much time trying to rob old ladies as trying to have sex with young girls, wouldn't you Strike?All sins are weighted equally
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you make the funniest threads man!
keep the games. delete the pron if you like. nowadays you dont have to download anymore. just watch online on xxxyoutubes n such.
i think you broke up with your gf?
you make the funniest threads man!
keep the games. delete the pron if you like. nowadays you dont have to download anymore. just watch online on xxxyoutubes n such.
i think you broke up with your gf?
Speaking as a lapsed Christian, I will say this: Off-site backups are a wonderful thing. 
The games too? Tell him to pound sand. I can see him requesting the pr0n purge, but this is obviously about control.
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf:
Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
The games too? Tell him to pound sand. I can see him requesting the pr0n purge, but this is obviously about control.
Pray that those children will never find it again and move on with your life.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
This is true in the sencse that all Sin seperates man from God, but in the more concrete sense it is patently false. If you really believed all Sins were equal you would spend as much time trying to rob old ladies as trying to have sex with young girls, wouldn't you Strike?
In the eyes of God they are all the same. The same human follies that seperate us from God in the first place also cause us to weight sins or worngdoings differentley so we can cast judgement on our fellow man.This is true in the sencse that all Sin seperates man from God, but in the more concrete sense it is patently false. If you really believed all Sins were equal you would spend as much time trying to rob old ladies as trying to have sex with young girls, wouldn't you Strike?
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
In the eyes of God they are all the same. The same human follies that seperate us from God in the first place also cause us to weight sins or worngdoings differentley so we can cast judgement on our fellow man.
So, you're not going to chase any more tail? Or, more to the point, you're going to stop watching porn, right?In the eyes of God they are all the same. The same human follies that seperate us from God in the first place also cause us to weight sins or worngdoings differentley so we can cast judgement on our fellow man.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
So, you're not going to chase any more tail? Or, more to the point, you're going to stop watching porn, right?
I don't forsee that but I also don't see what you're getting at....one man is in no position to judge another in a Godly sense. Now due to our follies we must set some rules we all agree upon but to assume we can hold the same judgemental powers as God is very pridefulSo, you're not going to chase any more tail? Or, more to the point, you're going to stop watching porn, right?
LMFAO Hahahahaha CuteWolf, you are freakin hilarious, man. But heeeeeeeey, we are, all of us, imperfect in our ways. 
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
The same human follies that seperate us from God in the first place also cause us to weight sins or worngdoings differentley so we can cast judgement on our fellow man.
Now that you've mentioned it, the issue of judging people is one I have been wondering about recently. Although people like to shout "Judge not lest ye be judged" at Christians, I think they are taking that somewhat out of context, since in the same verse, Jesus does go on to say that first take out the beam in your own eye and then admonish your brother.The same human follies that seperate us from God in the first place also cause us to weight sins or worngdoings differentley so we can cast judgement on our fellow man.
There is a habit with both liberals and the stricter Christians to take verses out of context and use them to support prohibitions of certain things when in fact the author intended to give a warning again excessive use or the abuse of them. Such is the case with the prohibitions people place on alcohol, or taking oaths, or lawsuits etc.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
So, you're not going to chase any more tail? Or, more to the point, you're going to stop watching porn, right?
I think it depends if you are talking of general standards or legalistic standards. By general standards, I just mean the common sense view that obviously some acts are far worse than others, both in their consequences and from a moral perspective. But with the legal standards with God and his justice and punishment etc, anything less than perfection is an abomination.So, you're not going to chase any more tail? Or, more to the point, you're going to stop watching porn, right?
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr:
Now that you've mentioned it, the issue of judging people is one I have been wondering about recently. Although people like to shout "Judge not lest ye be judged" at Christians, I think they are taking that somewhat out of context, since in the same verse, Jesus does go on to say that first take out the beam in your own eye and then admonish your brother.
There is a habit with both liberals and the stricter Christians to take verses out of context and use them to support prohibitions of certain things when in fact the author intended to give a warning again excessive use or the abuse of them. Such is the case with the prohibitions people place on alcohol, or taking oaths, or lawsuits etc.
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Yes but see I make a clear distincition btwnNow that you've mentioned it, the issue of judging people is one I have been wondering about recently. Although people like to shout "Judge not lest ye be judged" at Christians, I think they are taking that somewhat out of context, since in the same verse, Jesus does go on to say that first take out the beam in your own eye and then admonish your brother.
There is a habit with both liberals and the stricter Christians to take verses out of context and use them to support prohibitions of certain things when in fact the author intended to give a warning again excessive use or the abuse of them. Such is the case with the prohibitions people place on alcohol, or taking oaths, or lawsuits etc.
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1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
This seems to be more focused on the judgemental aspect, while:
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
This seems to to say take stock of your own shortcomings before helping out a brother or be reminded of your own shortcomings. Which of course we all have
So far we have all missed the burning question:
Why are you taking (and using) a laptop to church in the first place? Seriously. Leave it at home. In the car. Whatever. That's like taking a bong to grandmas house, you are just asking for trouble.
Wierdo
Why are you taking (and using) a laptop to church in the first place? Seriously. Leave it at home. In the car. Whatever. That's like taking a bong to grandmas house, you are just asking for trouble.
Wierdo
These whackjobs (pun intended) asked you to erase your computer games stuff that tell em to get lost
Delete the priest, keep the porn.
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
So far we have all missed the burning question:
Why are you taking (and using) a laptop to church in the first place? Seriously. Leave it at home. In the car. Whatever. That's like taking a bong to grandmas house, you are just asking for trouble.
Wierdo
Just remember, you'll be missing classics like this thread once you're in A.So far we have all missed the burning question:
Why are you taking (and using) a laptop to church in the first place? Seriously. Leave it at home. In the car. Whatever. That's like taking a bong to grandmas house, you are just asking for trouble.
Wierdo
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*. PS: I really need advices from fellow Christians... so don't bring another pov's arguments here...
Then go post on a Christian forum. It's about as realistic as me opening a thread going:*. PS: I really need advices from fellow Christians... so don't bring another pov's arguments here...
"Hey guys I think we should all blatantly discriminate Israel, but please Fragony and other right-wing people don't respond kthxbai."
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf:
Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
This is why I am no longer a Christian, too many irritating people and self-righteous people. I can understand why he thinks he can tell you to do things, as he feels he's looking out for you, but in reality, he's just shoving his nose into other people's business.Of course, when they ask me... "what is that?"... I just tell them.. It's not your business and I think everything was over... but then, the very same evangelist come, and ask me to erase all my porn and games from all my computer, because they will do no good, and inhibit me to heard what did the God want from me....
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf:
I think it was normal for a young man to keep some adult material for his private amusment... but they said that even only watching them is a sin equal to real adultery...
Of course it is. Every species on the planet wants and needs to reproduce, we've all got hormones. Fiddling to some pics of naked ladies is hardly a crime. Sex isn't bad like a lot of denominations say, you should just be careful and aware of the conscequences.I think it was normal for a young man to keep some adult material for his private amusment... but they said that even only watching them is a sin equal to real adultery...
Originally Posted by Subotan:
Pray that those children will never find it again and move on with your life.
Pray that those children will never find it again and move on with your life.
Father Jack has his priorities right
Please note that the above is a bit riske and vulgar as well as quite funny. Backroomers view at your own risk.
Please note that the above is a bit riske and vulgar as well as quite funny. Backroomers view at your own risk.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
All sins are weighted equally
When Jesus was asked which was the great commandment, he had a ready answer for a number one, and even threw in a bonus number two. This suggests to me that not all commandments are equal, but rather some are weighted more heavily than others. Since I see sin as basically the breaking of God's commandments, it follows that not all sins are weighted equally. Furthermore, when Peter expanded the church to the gentiles, he received a revelation allowing him to dial back some of the dietary laws and the circumcision thing, which I suspect would have made proselytizing difficult. On the other hand, God didn't make any changes to the no murder or no idolatry clauses. If God appears willing to alter or rescind some commandments depending on the time and place, but not others, that seems like further evidence that not all sins are equal. All sins are weighted equally
Ajax
just send all your porn to me and then delete it....
I won´t die for your sins...but I´ll whack for them! :P
I won´t die for your sins...but I´ll whack for them! :P
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