Council thread

[Lord of Lent]

But with Edict 1.1 we make sure that nobody of our tribe will attack the Goths; if they would, an alliance would be impossible for many years with the Goths and their allies.

[TheFlax]

No one, my son, no one, is allowed to declare war on any other people without the consent of this body or my consent.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This makes me think about what if someone do brakes the law.. decides not to follow the edicts?
I think a Codex Edict that determines the punishment for braking the law should be enacted.

[Madoushi]

As our King makes a good point, I would wish to retract my support for Edict 1.1[ and also to second King Vismar as Treasurer.

Our King is correct that we may not need a full edict in order to make an alliance with another state.

However, I feel at least one such alliance might be neccessary, not to deter our generals from attacking our neighbours, no, but to prevent our neighbours from attacking us.
Should the Huns, Goths or Franks turn their attention upon us as we lay waste to the Marcomanni, we could find ourselves in a hammer-and-anvil situation which could make our migration far more difficult.

However, I trust the wisdom of my King in this matter, and have faith that the gods have shown him the path to greatness.

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Yes, I also second King Visimar for Treasurer. I'm sure my father is more than capable.Now let's take a look at the diplomatic situation overall. This is just speculation, but to me it seems most likely that the Huns will attack the Sarmatians, who will attack the Goths, who will attack the (Eastern) Romans. We will probably be facing down the Western Romans at some point, and they are allied with the Eastern Romans. The Goths could be a very useful asset in keeping the Eastern empire's attention while we attack the west. Therefore, an alliance with the Goths seems like a good idea, but we need to be flexible in these fast-changing circumstances. A full edict, in my opinion, is not necessary.

[Lord of Lent]

Duva, I agree with you. If someone thinks it is necessary to break our law, he should be punished. No exceptions! (Sorry father...)
Ladies (if you are allowed inside this council tent) and gentlemen, I propose the following laws:

Codex Edict 1.1: If someone breaks the law, he will be punished in a way the council thinks is best.
There is a special council of judges for people who break the law consisting of 3 chiefs or higher.; the King chooses one, the council the second and the third one.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Though I like your initiative according to the old laws(Rules) you can only propose one Edict or Codex Edict/Amendment. So, you either have to choose which one you propose or you can merge these Edicts.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Council Session is over!

Since Edict 1.1 and Edict 1.2 did not get enough seconds then voting is not necessary.

King Visimar assumes the position of Treasurer automatically since there were no other candidates.