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[gamegeek2]

I'd be very interested to help out with this project.

Start Date: 80 BCE

-Post-Marian: Simplifies things for the Roman players
-Gaius Marius has just recently died
-Pompeii has just celebrated a triumph - he is an FM
-Caesar is a young FM, just recently come to power
-Social War has ended
-Second Mithradatic War has just ended
-Gallic Conquest has not yet happened
-Mithradates is alive and well
-Indo-Saka are just getting started
-Seleucids are almost dead

--- Factions ---

Senatus Populusque Romanus (obviously)
Boii
Aedui
Arverni
Getai
Suebi
Lugiones
Ptolemaioi
Hasmoneans
Nabatu
Indo-Greeks
Indo-Saka
Pontus
Hayasdan
Parthia
Sauromatae
Yuezhi
Himyarites
Axum
Meroe
Eleutheroi

[anubis88]

Hey Gamegeek2, nice to hear from a EB team member...

I must admit i have lost a bit my all-out Principate wishes, and would love to help with a republican mod. 80 BC seems good, but it would be nice if we could find ways to script the Civil-wars that followed in Rome. Basically after the third Mithridatic war, Rome was the Alpha and the Omega, and there was nothing anyone could do... I just fear Rome would be to overpowered if there wasn't a Roman rebel faction:)...

Have you any idea what the map would look like?

P.S. And what about the Sertorians in Spain? I think they already had things going over there... And the 3 Serville war would be coming... I dunno. Without this events, the campaing would be dry

[Cute Wolf]

you could give one faction slot for Ivlivs Caesar family, and let the rest will be SPQR I tought. so this mod will focus on the struggle of caesar. OR PERHAPS THE OPPOSITE WAY ARROUND, made the Ivlivs Caesar family either "spawn on revolt" or "shadowing" SPQR faction. so the Romans will have to defend the republics from within. We could made several hapiness penalty for the Romans to emulate that, and Caesar will have practically no loyalty to teh SPQR...

so basically it was "SPQR" and "Imperivm Ivlianum" faction

perhaps you could kick one less important Barbarian faction... any ideas?

[gamegeek2]

Hey Gamegeek2, nice to hear from a EB team member...

I must admit i have lost a bit my all-out Principate wishes, and would love to help with a republican mod. 80 BC seems good, but it would be nice if we could find ways to script the Civil-wars that followed in Rome. Basically after the third Mithridatic war, Rome was the Alpha and the Omega, and there was nothing anyone could do... I just fear Rome would be to overpowered if there wasn't a Roman rebel faction:)...

Have you any idea what the map would look like?

P.S. And what about the Sertorians in Spain? I think they already had things going over there... And the 3 Serville war would be coming... I dunno. Without this events, the campaing would be dry

I'm a fan first and a team member second. I'm willing to put in significant effort into this project, and already have a map in the works (via Google Earth, to suggest settlements)

I missed out on the Numidians, but I think we'd best devote our attention to the real things that put Rome in trouble - Mithradates - as well as the threats from Germania.

[anubis88]

I couldn't agree more. But we would definetly need to find a way to make the game harder for Rome, we would need to find a way for Rome to have at least some sort of civil strugle, perhaps even by devoting a "rebel" Roman faction, since it was all about Rome and it's civil wars at this time. We could make the transition to Principate a drastic one, one that's only possible if a certain character arises, who crushes the rebellions...

At the begining i was all for a principate mod, but almost no help would arise. This way I could still work on that + the late republic which is my second most interesting part of Roman history. I'm also willing to put a lot of work to this project, since i can't stand to do sth. that i can't stand behind it and argument.

[gamegeek2]

The game will do that for us. Look at what happens to AS - same thing will happen to Rome. Though I suppose not every bit of their border is immediately threatened (neither was the AS's, though).

We can have massive rebel defender and decent invader stacks in Iberia, same thing with Africa.

Having both Lugiones and Suebi mandate a couple new provinces in Germania - plus, some old ones were stupid (for example, the Saami, Thissakata, etc, provinces) - these will be replaced with historically accurate Balto-Slavic tribal and geographic names. More northern, out-of-reach provinces will become ones that multiple factions can realistically vie for.

The EB Germanic wouldn't need to be changed much, except for changing voiced stops to voiceless ones.

[Cute Wolf]

hmm, so the central euroopeans will got several map changes...
what about the "creator faction" in some allready long roman held provinces, such as in Hellas proper and iberia? did they gone with Romans (so rebel to romans if revolted), or keep the original owner?

[anubis88]

Interesting... However Iberia is a touchy subject. Under Sertorius we can practically speak of a "first united" spanish state. It did enconpass almost all of the Iberian penninsula, without the far north and south. I would suggest to make most of the cities heavilly fortified and under the Rebel faction, if not under a seperate Roman one (which they almost deserve imho)