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Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
As have been said, Pyrrhos is well-known for starting things and not finishing anything. At first it seemed like he wanted to focus on Italy (he rejected the offer of the throne of the macedonians) and his campaigns in Sicily seems to indicate he wanted to emulate Alexander somehow, protecting the greeks of italy agaisnt the "barbarians" of the west. Obviously that meant to carve his own hellenic kingdom there.
After the failure of his campaigns in italy, i don´t think he had any idea of coming back to try again. Pyrrhos then accepted the offer of invading Sparta, and putting there his puppet king. Imho this shows that Pyrrhos had shifted his interests, and was now trying to dominate the other states of greece and expand his dominion in the mainland.
In my opinion, if Pyrrhos had won at Argos he would have probably kept trying to gain control directly or indirectly over the other states in greece, possibly claim the throne of makedonia if that would benefit his cause. Anyhow it is hard to say, because as have been said Pyrrhos is known for not taking well defeats and changing his mind as soon as the plans did not go well. If he had won at Argos, he may have been encouraged to keep campaigning in greece. If he had lost, but survived, he may have been discouraged by his defeats at Sparta and Argos, and decided to do something else, perhaps go back to Italy again? I doubt so, but we will never know.
Imho it is a pity that such a great military mind did not achieve any long-term sucesses, unlike Alexander. But then Alexander did not suffer any defeat, if he did he may have stopped and changed his plans for something different. I think that is what happened to Pyrrhos, his defeats made him unable to stick with his plans and probably abort them too quickly, where it may not have been truly a lost cause and only required more perseverance.
Assuming history had to happen as it did is even worse history.Originally Posted by Subotan
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Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
... providing clichéd sensationalist 'alternate history' scenarios without a solid factual backdrop of well-done historical research and an healthy dose of skepticism - that's really 'bad history'. I understand your point - ideologically loaded historical revisionism, ... - but 'alternate history' can be a quite entertaining intellectual exercise, if you keep in mind that"What if" questions are bad history.what would have really happened - that any 'alternate history' scenario is a more or less well informed speculation, which cannot mirror the sheer complexity of real history and should not be taken too seriously.we will never know
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'...usque adeo res humanas vis abdita quaedam:opterit et pulchros fascis saevasque secures:proculcare ac ludibrio sibi habere videtur.' De rerum natura V, 1233ff.
Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
Meh. That's just my opinion.
Of course, they are important for making computer games and films and the like. I wouldn't play historical Strategy games if I didn't find it entertaining. But it's obviously not proper history.
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Pyrrhos had an EPIC FAIL death, why would you ruin that?
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Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
...guess why I put 'alternate history' in quotation marks - of course it's not proper history, and should never be mistaken for such. It's a 'speculative fiction' devised to entertain, no serious academic historian would - and should ever - consider to bother with - except for quick laughs - and his own amusement (EB!) ;)But it's obviously not proper history.
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'...usque adeo res humanas vis abdita quaedam:opterit et pulchros fascis saevasque secures:proculcare ac ludibrio sibi habere videtur.' De rerum natura V, 1233ff.
Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
He goes to taras again and moves to rhegion, tries to capture it, but he is thrown of his horse when noticing that the roman army had the idea first (but arrived later) and are behind them, and the rebel army is standing in the front and he gets sandwiched, and dies because a rebel found a tile in his pockets and threw it to his headand then a principes kills him, the romans take rhegion and negotiate Taras for phyrros' head and then ambrakia for his body, then (the city in dalmatia) for his limbs, then (any other phyrric city) for his fingers and nails
~Jirisys (so what "bartix" and what faction replaces armenia go then?!!
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Re: What do you think Pyrrhos would have done if he won the battle at Argos?
Opinions are like bacteries, everybody have, but it's better to keep them for ourself
Opinions are like bacteries : we all have, but it's better to keep them for ourself... (By me!)
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