Spears

**oudysseos** · 04-17-2010, 17:45

Not that this negates the merits of the discussion necessarily, but this guy Lloyd is a bit of a crank, and there is a lot of cogent criticism to be made of his arguments.

Frankly, I think it's weird that this issue attracts such passionate opinions. It's not like it can really ever be conclusively settled.

**Atilius** · 04-18-2010, 00:10

Originally Posted by oudysseos

Frankly, I think it's weird that this issue attracts such passionate opinions. It's not like it can really ever be conclusively settled.

Well, not without casualties at any rate.

**Ludens** · 04-18-2010, 11:05

Originally Posted by oudysseos

Frankly, I think it's weird that this issue attracts such passionate opinions. It's not like it can really ever be conclusively settled.

In science, it sometimes seems that the less evidence there is, the more certain people are of their opinions.

**cmacq** · 04-18-2010, 16:22

Originally Posted by Ludens

In science, it sometimes seems that the less evidence there is, the more certain people are of their opinions.

indeed, thats why i love the use of 'settled science.'

**gamegeek2** · 04-19-2010, 03:02

Originally Posted by Ludens

In science, it sometimes seems that the less evidence there is, the more certain people are of their opinions.

Sig'd

**Klearchos** · 04-18-2010, 16:29

Originally Posted by oudysseos

Not that this negates the merits of the discussion necessarily, but this guy Lloyd is a bit of a crank, and there is a lot of cogent criticism to be made of his arguments.

Frankly, I think it's weird that this issue attracts such passionate opinions. It's not like it can really ever be conclusively settled.

Well, of course nothing can be said for certain, but by examining the offensive and defensive equipment, we may come closer to the truth.