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    This Antonio Tajani sounds as mad as a bag of spiders if you ask me I guess he is Italian so ole Silvio prob thinks it's a great idea
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    Every socialist scheme starts with the declaration of a new human right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Every socialist scheme starts with the declaration of a new human right.
    It is a (somewhat) hardright scheme, in the Italian corporatist tradition.

    Let's call it International-Socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Every socialist scheme starts with the declaration of a new human right.
    By this rather loose formulation, the United States was formed as a socialist scheme. And so was the civil rights movement. And the reformation and the entire protestant movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    By this rather loose formulation, the United States was formed as a socialist scheme. And so was the civil rights movement. And the reformation and the entire protestant movement.
    That is certainly an interesting interpretation of history.

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    The proposal sounds pretty ludicrous. I'd say the site published it that way to get ratings, but the quotes seem pretty definitive

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    That is certainly an interesting interpretation of history.
    Nah, just a logic mix up. Every Q starts with P doesn't imply that every P leads to Q etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    Nah, just a logic mix up. Every Q starts with P doesn't imply that every P leads to Q etc.
    And yet if P does not necessarily lead to Q, it calls into question the value of the original observation, does it not? Where's the benefit of observing that "Every serial killer at some time ate bananas?" As you so correctly point out, eating bananas does not lead to serial killing. So the value of the observation is, at the very least, questionable.

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    That said, the article linked in the OP is insane. Had to check twice to make sure it wasn't dated April 1.
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    Watch your P's and Q's guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    That said, the article linked in the OP is insane. Had to check twice to make sure it wasn't dated April 1.
    It is insane and there's signs that it's something suspicious about it. Main news aren't picking up on it for example. Then there's also that it is a suggestion, that the cost is potentially several hundreds of million pounds, and that is 30% of the total cost, since that's the cost the EU is to handle.

    Should it actuslly be serious, we can suspect that Mr. Tajani has a bit too much connections with the travel industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    By this rather loose formulation, the United States was formed as a socialist scheme. And so was the civil rights movement. And the reformation and the entire protestant movement.
    Why did I ever dislike you Lemur?


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    Why did I ever dislike you Lemur?
    Oh, I'm sure I've given plenty of offense in my time. I never hold it against anyone if they decide to dislike me for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Oh, I'm sure I've given plenty of offense in my time. I never hold it against anyone if they decide to dislike me for a while.
    2.5 years of reading your posts in the backroom have made me slowly realize if I am going to have a grudge against someone on the org its not going to be one of the most reasonable politically.

    Back on topic, I don't understood why when people through their governments express a desire for more that it needs to be justified by being a "basic, human right". I don't see a problem with a society justifying defending their desire to enjoy their life without falling behind in the capitalist rat race by declaring the holidays an "essential, EU right" or for my countrymen simply an "American right". If we are to apply the (imo false ideology) of nationalism, why don't we apply it to demand for more of ourselves instead of just applying it to demand more of other countries through force.


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