Yes, I suppose then that your lower class white demographic is mostly ex-industrial-without-hope. That's a problem with the North, and Thatcher's "amputation" of certain industries. Conversely, the poor in my area are general rural farmers, or ex-light industry (glove making used to be big near my home-town).
All this means we have different demographics and sub-cultures. Although, we do have those sorts of "white" chav in Plymouth.
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