Pick your side [Concluded]

[Thermal]

I think we're lurking in the shadows a little to much.

I suggest that we all reveal our roles publicly and see if we can't make some sense of it all.

You've seen mine, if everyone else can reveal that would be nice....

Mafia already have an easy choice between 2 people, why not expand there horizons.

[Romanic]

I said it in private, but I'm gonna repeat here. I don't think revealing our roles will do us any good. It will give unnecessary insights to the mafia who will know what to expect and who the best target is for night 2.

Besides we don't know how a neutral party could take advantage of this information. I suggest we keep to our private discussions and trust each other.

It the light of what I heard from Split and you, lynching atheotes or Yaro is our best option, at least until they speak up.

[Splitpersonality]

I agree, obviously.

Vote: Yaro for the pressure.

[Thermal]

Well revealing would give mafia the knowledge of the roles, but by not revealing it sort of helps mafia too as they don't have to forge, it can't harm to apply pressure, mafia will probably get rid of me tonight through my claimed role and given how small the game is revealing our roles can give more knowledge and hopefully pinpoint what looks real and what looks fake.

But its a long shot, so I support the decision to not reveal, I guess...

[Romanic]

Or we can agree that players have to role reveal to you privately, this way they would have to forge but we won't give them any information.

Either way, the mafia is under pressure now if the three of us are really who we say we are.

[atheotes]

there is no reason to listen to neutral roles...
anyways i am a townie and a very important one at that. Voting for me is not good for the town.
Vote: Yaropolk

[atheotes]

Or we can agree that players have to role reveal to you privately, this way they would have to forge but we won't give them any information.

Either way, the mafia is under pressure now if the three of us are really who we say we are.

if the three of you are really townies and assuming we have 2 mafia, that makes me and Yaropolk the mafia. But i have no qualms about lynching Yaropolk.

[Romanic]

I don't like the sound of your arguments. If only one of you two is mafia, now I think it's you.

unvote Yaropolk; vote atheotes.

[Yaropolk]

In a game of 7 people, you have to have 2 mafia for balance. Given a third party lyncher role also being present, you'd need to make all townies power roles. So far TM and Flax both roleclaimed giving credence to this theory.

Based on last night's actions and TM's results I only see 2 possible outcomes:

1) TM is telling the truth. In which case split did nothing last night. Either he's a plain townie (I don't think there are any in this game) or he's mafia lying low - remember only 1 kill last night, and no reason for townies to do no actions. In this case we should lynch split.

2) TM is lying. In which case he and split are partners. I don't see this as being a productive move for mafia as it would link the two of them publically, and TM's roleclaim would be verified by investigator at night. In this case, split is still our best lynch choice.

I believe TM's results peg split as a mafioso with certainty.

Vote: split

[Romanic]

In a game of 7 people, you have to have 2 mafia for balance. Given a third party lyncher role also being present, you'd need to make all townies power roles. So far TM and Flax both roleclaimed giving credence to this theory.

So what was the Lyncher's abilities? Is this a role that you've seen in another game?

It seems to me that another scenario would be to start with 4 townies, 2 neutrals and 1 mafia. This is Pick-A-Side, I would not be surprised if at least 2 of us went the neutral way for fun.

1) TM is telling the truth. In which case split did nothing last night. Either he's a plain townie (I don't think there are any in this game) or he's mafia lying low - remember only 1 kill last night, and no reason for townies to do no actions. In this case we should lynch split.

The mafia, if they are two, can only kill once per night or the Town would lose by default if they lynch one of their own on day 1. Thus it does not make sense that he is a mafia laying low. Besides, he is not necessarily a plain townie. I could name at least 2 roles who would not use their ability on day 1.

2) TM is lying. In which case he and split are partners. I don't see this as being a productive move for mafia as it would link the two of them publically, and TM's roleclaim would be verified by investigator at night. In this case, split is still our best lynch choice.

Thermal is not lying or he is one gutsy fellow. This game is full of uncertainty and someone could easily have shattered is alibi. I think he's not lying about being pro-town, unfortunately that does not make split pro-town for sure. He could be neutral.

[TheFlax]

I think Yaropolk should be lynched.

(Note: I do not have any special information due to my role, its just a feeling I have based upon reading the thread.)

[atheotes]

I don't like the sound of your arguments. If only one of you two is mafia, now I think it's you.

unvote Yaropolk; vote atheotes.

my arguments were supposed to go with the role claim i did to Thermal. I was hoping he would post something in the thread.

we cannot clear Split based on the TMs result alone. we dont know if there are 2 mafia and only one of them have to submit kill orders.

[Yaropolk]

@romanic I'm not sure what a lyncher is, maybe a vote switcher. Last round I voted you to create a tie. Once I got a reaction out of atheotes, I switched to next most suspicious person, and happened to be third. I didn't pile on a bandwagon to hide my vote.

@everyone else, if we take tm as innocent, the only person who we have evidence other than feelings of scumminess is split. I can come up with things atheotes is doing that are scummy, however, as scummy as it may be in my eyes, its still only supposition. We know for a fact that split did not do anything last night, and that's solid evidence that shouldn't be ignored.

@atheotes you posted that mafia would only get one kill in mini game. That fits perfectly with my theory that one of them didn't do a night action, either by choice as I proposed, or by game mechanic as you point out.

[Subotan]

@Subotan: Is that a joke or are you actually telling us that Atheotes did it? I took that as a joke when I read it.

It's the truth.

Your role is: Tracker

Each night you may send me the name of one person and follow them around. You will see who they visit at night, but won't be told what they did. You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Game starts in day time.

Sasaki

That's the role you had in Red Herring

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote Count:


atheotes: 2 (thermal, Romanic)
yaro: 2 (split, atheotes)
split: (yaropolk)

Not voting: no one

Tie vote, so the next vote will decide it (as long as it puts someone in the lead).

[Romanic]

Hopefully I'm right about this. vote: atheotes

[Splitpersonality]

In a game of 7 people, you have to have 2 mafia for balance. Given a third party lyncher role also being present, you'd need to make all townies power roles. So far TM and Flax both roleclaimed giving credence to this theory.

Based on last night's actions and TM's results I only see 2 possible outcomes:

1) TM is telling the truth. In which case split did nothing last night. Either he's a plain townie (I don't think there are any in this game) or he's mafia lying low - remember only 1 kill last night, and no reason for townies to do no actions. In this case we should lynch split.

2) TM is lying. In which case he and split are partners. I don't see this as being a productive move for mafia as it would link the two of them publically, and TM's roleclaim would be verified by investigator at night. In this case, split is still our best lynch choice.

I believe TM's results peg split as a mafioso with certainty.

Vote: split

How about option number 3, Split's power is a passive one and not an active one?

[Yaropolk]

unvote; vote: atheotes these lynch results should clear up people's alignment hopefully

[Sasaki Kojiro]

atheotes has been lynched. He was Bulletproof

Subotan is victorious.

Alive:
Romanic
Split
Thermal
Yaropolk

Night lasts 24 hours.

[Subotan]

That was surprisingly easy.

[Double A]

And unsurprisingly confusing.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I could swear we've had lyncher roles before...they win when they get a certain person lynched. But you guys listened to him even after his role had been revealed

[Renata]

(I know the role, myself, and I've been reading this all day just shaking my head. And you made the lynchee bulletproof to boot? Haha.)

[Thermal]

Dammit, I was offline when Atheotes sent his PM to me, if I was online I would have told romanic to send his twinkies to atheotes to see what would happen

and then go on to lynch yaropolk




I wasn't familiar with the lyncher role, my initial vote was from his reasoning, so I made a bad choice there.


Good game sasaki

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It's not over...

[Thermal]

It's not over...

Oh...

so are we competing for a minor victory...?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Subotans victory is personal, and separate from the rest of the game. Doesn't affect anyone elses victory.

[Romanic]

Well, I knew what a lyncher was before the time limit expired, I found it on epicmafia but I didn't think it mattered now that Subotan was dead.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Lyncher

Dead people can fulfill their victory conditions and win?

Well, well, looks like we're not dead yet. There is only one mafia otherwise it would be game over. And I think we all know who the scumbag is.

[atheotes]

i was away the whole day

[Subotan]

No hard feelings, eh atheotes?