Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
Superior firepower? The conquest of the Aztec Empire had little to do with guns, and was largely a success due to native allies and disease.
As you said, it would have happened later, but they eventually would have come back with larger, better equipped, and more advanced armies that would have won.

Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
What do you mean?
In the US at least, our greatest challenge came from the nomads in the central plains, who relied on the buffalo for food. Because the trigger-happy (US) Americans slaughtered the buffalo almost to extinction for the lulz (those of you who played Oregon Trail know what I'm talking about), the nomads were crippled. While this phenomenon was not limited to the central plains people, it was especially pronounced there due to their reliance on a single animal, whereas other groups relied on a variety of animals and plants or practiced agriculture. Of course, for this to happen, it's assumed that the Europeans would have already subdued/annihilated the groups on the East coast and have large colonies there in order to be in a position to make furthur inroads, but I do not think that it is an unreasonable assumption, seeing how the European goods were in such demand, who would refuse a request for a "trading post/enclave".

Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
If disease was non-existent amongst the Native Americans, then the situation may have mirrored Africa and India. Trading colonies and so forth that would have eventually developed into a total claim/conquest on the two continents. Then eventual independance, mass expulsion of whites, and many, many wars. The natives would likely never have developed into minorities, but it is exceedingly difficult to imagine a world where the whites wouldn't have a couple continents in which to run away from their mess in Europe.
I'm kind of picturing a situation more like apartheid-era South Africa.

Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
And horses, don't forget the horses...
Actually, once the Aztecs and Inca stopped being afraid of them, I can't imagine them being very useful. The realms of the Aztec and Inca consisted mainly of extensive jungles and mountain ranges, where horses are craptacular.

Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
It would be pretty stupid of them to bilndly continue eating something lethal for generations until someone developed resistance.
Yeah, that would be pretty stupid. *Knocks back a bottle of Jack Daniels and takes a drag on a cigarette before ordering Fugu*