What are the main things you want to see fixed from EB1 in EB2???

**Horatius Flaccus** · 05-07-2011, 12:30

Apparently it is possible to let all factions be re-emergent.

**TheLastDays** · 05-07-2011, 13:10

Yes but for some it wouldn't make sense. The Ptolemaics for example were rather foreign rulers themselves and in a rebellion of native egyptian population it is highly unlikely they would reinstate the greek rulers...

**Horatius Flaccus** · 05-07-2011, 20:06

True, but for a lot of factions it would make sense. There are only a few factions where there are foreign rulers ruling a native population (Ptolemaioi, Seleukia and Pontus are the only ones I can think of right now).

**Ichon** · 05-07-2011, 21:32

Even in the cases where foreign based culture ruled larger population of natives and were themselves in turn conquered it wouldn't be surprising that the first rebellion was led by a member of the former ruling caste unless a total purge was done... but that is difficult as often the former rulers intermarried with the locals and the former 'foreign' systems seem more familiar to the people who are rebelling than the new imposed ideas of the latest rulers.

So the example if Ptolemaioi were conquered by Rome... then a core region revolts- that chances that it is a totally Egyptian revolt without any Ptolemaioi influences seem very slim. With Seleukia and other descendents of Alexander's empire its more difficult because which regions should count as "core" and most of the culture had some influences from language and culture from Alexander but after 100 years of foreign rule (non-Greek) and then a revolt... would Seleukia really be restored? In that case it seems questionable but that makes it more a matter of time than potential and since the timeline is relatively short for EB2 and the time from when Ptolemaioi or Seleukia might be conquered to the end is even shorter so I don't see why not.

**fomalhaut** · 05-07-2011, 22:20

sounds far too complicated.

something more significant than roving bandits should be implemented though, i auto_win aphistemaioi because i know they are totally artificial, there as a throwaway game mechanic left over from RTW. if my actions lead to a legitimate revolt or uprising then it would have significance and impetus to get rid of it. aphistemaioi just don't cut it.

**Cybvep** · 05-08-2011, 11:49

Let's hope that the new "unit replacement" system will limit the elite stacks of doom somewhat.

**fomalhaut** · 05-08-2011, 21:38

it will. they will have a long replenishment rate, i'd guess at least 8 seasons

**Ichon** · 05-09-2011, 04:55

Originally Posted by fomalhaut

sounds far too complicated.

something more significant than roving bandits should be implemented though, i auto_win aphistemaioi because i know they are totally artificial, there as a throwaway game mechanic left over from RTW. if my actions lead to a legitimate revolt or uprising then it would have significance and impetus to get rid of it. aphistemaioi just don't cut it.

Its actually not that complicated. Just deciding which core regions qualify and which factions should be re-emergent. With MTW2 might even be able to add a counter so if a region hasn't changed hands in 100 turns its now effectively assimilated and there is nothing to inspire a revolt.

Seems better than larger empires losing a couple provinces here or there and always quickly recapturing them. At least some spawned larger stacks and renewed faction would be much more interesting and in more cases than not seems plausible for the span of EB2.