I'm just speculating, but perhaps CA has thrown away most of their pre-release version's stuff already. For them, MTW is ancient stuff already, what with Empire:TW and Napoleon:TW up in the air today. Yes, noble edyzmedieval, I think on the same lines too--it ought to be great to play MTW with a strategic map of such cute graphics. Between them, I always did like the old MTW than the newer M2TW to play. Hawooh