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    Not this thread again, we had one the other week and the week before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Not this thread again, we had one the other week and the week before.
    Link me. We could be over and done with it then :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Link me. We could be over and done with it then :)
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...e&daysprune=60
    The topic evolves into this subject.


    Also, the French are modern Neanderthals.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8660940.stm

    It is interesting that "blacks" (etc) are the purest homo sapiens. So much for genetic purity arguments by white racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...e&daysprune=60
    The topic evolves into this subject.


    Also, the French are modern Neanderthals.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8660940.stm

    It is interesting that "blacks" (etc) are the purest homo sapiens. So much for genetic purity.
    I do not believe that topic quite covered this.

    And no it is not interesting that "blacks" are the purest homo sapiens. It was however interesting way back in time when the research was published. Today it is just common knowledge, hence my reference to "getting out of africa wasnt that easy".

    We had 2 groups moving out, that basically make up the rest of the world.

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    Of course cognitive abilities differ between populations.


    We don't need to look at cumbersome inductive evidence. We need only deduction.

    If a trait is heriditable, and it is different between individuals, then it is subject to evolutionary pressure. So all we need is to show that cognitive abilities differ between individual people, and that there are heriditable aspects. I would show, but neither of these two is in much dispute.

    It's all you need. Everything else is creationist obfuscation: the idea that evolution somehow stops at the human brain, which is the realm of the soul.
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    Some think that intelligence is the soul. The high and mighty, the omnipotent, know all that need be known in the world. The intellectual elect who will raise humanity to new heights, sharing what they have learned, such that the evolution of the text book bibles can form a utopia that God himself (if he existed) would be proud of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Nerd View Post
    Some think that intelligence is the soul. The high and mighty, the omnipotent, know all that need be known in the world. The intellectual elect who will raise humanity to new heights, sharing what they have learned, such that the evolution of the text book bibles can form a utopia that God himself (if he existed) would be proud of.
    It's all fine with me but don't fly airplanes into buildings and especially DON'T KNOCK ON MY DOOR ON SUNDAY MORNING
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Of course cognitive abilities differ between populations.


    We don't need to look at cumbersome inductive evidence. We need only deduction.

    If a trait is heriditable, and it is different between individuals, then it is subject to evolutionary pressure. So all we need is to show that cognitive abilities differ between individual people, and that there are heriditable aspects. I would show, but neither of these two is in much dispute.

    It's all you need. Everything else is creationist obfuscation: the idea that evolution somehow stops at the human brain, which is the realm of the soul.

    I was about to PC-jump you with the claim that evolution is measured in hundred of thousands of years, so there has never been enough time for our minds to divert racially.

    Then I thought of our bodies clearly having had time enough to divert, and the follow up question, then why not the brain?

    Only studies I have found would be ill to bring up here (Goodwin and stuff). Anyone know more about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    I was about to PC-jump you with the claim that evolution is measured in hundred of thousands of years, so there has never been enough time for our minds to divert racially.

    Then I thought of our bodies clearly having had time enough to divert, and the follow up question, then why not the brain?

    Only studies I have found would be ill to bring up here (Goodwin and stuff). Anyone know more about this?
    I read Cochran and Harpending's 'The 10000 Year Explosion'.


    Not the best book I've read. It did have one whopping eye-opener: evoultion hasn't slowed don. Evolution accelerated the past 10.000 years. Which had never occurred to me, but which makes a lot of sense. It's been an evolutionary roller-coaster ride., what with the spread to new climates, small wandering bands, agriculture, civilisation, cities.

    Consider it an anti-dote to Jared Diamond, who descibes many of these developments, but reaches an opposite conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    But PVC. One might as well say that people with African ancestry have darker skin. This is what we are talking about:
    And? As Lous says, heritable traits...

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Cool, innit?

    There are lots of fun statistics to be had with bell curves. or example, it is possible that the peak of the red curve is to the right of the blue one, but that the blue has a larger spread. In this case, despite the reds being more talented, in the extremes, the blues are the majority.
    I know (pleas don't use "innit" again though, it threatens to give me a migrain).

    I've always wondered whether this isn't the difference between men and women in many aspects. Women are so overwhelmingly 'normal'. Most of the imbeciles and geniuses I know are men. What's more, even more rare are female combinations of the two: the clever idiot, and the confused genius. Or, as that 70's book title read: There are no female Einsteins because there are no female Jack the rippers.
    Interesting thought, dunno.

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I read Cochran and Harpending's 'The 10000 Year Explosion'.


    Not the best book I've read. It did have one whopping eye-opener: evoultion hasn't slowed don. Evolution accelerated the past 10.000 years. Which had never occurred to me, but which makes a lot of sense. It's been an evolutionary roller-coaster ride., what with the spread to new climates, small wandering bands, agriculture, civilisation, cities.

    Consider it an anti-dote to Jared Diamond, who descibes many of these developments, but reaches an opposite conclusion.
    Now THAT is interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Then I thought of our bodies clearly having had time enough to divert, and the follow up question, then why not the brain?
    Got me thinking, too. Sweden has such a problem with immigrants, you accept gutter trash (that don't even speak Swedishey) of all sorts into your country with open arms and act surprised when your women are found face down in the alleys.

    That's not what we do here, sweet Jesus. Must be the brain differences, eh?

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    I can jump contrary to popular science. Im not going to go into details about my vertical leap again.

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