Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 05-24-2010 at 00:59.
You make less sense than I do. Perhaps I just can't explain...Wots dat mean m8? Is u bein sarky wiv me?
Silence is beautiful
Don't bother rhy he doesn't respond to defenses he just ignores you
'The 10000 Year Explosion' works from a flawed premise.
We all look at race through a western persective and through a western media. No wonder this thread has come to the conclusion all blacks are athletes
Last edited by Strike For The South; 05-24-2010 at 03:18.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
I dont think that......
Gah! See, this is what you get if you spend time at college!
That Texas schoolbook woman is right - Texas education is liberal indoctrination.
I'm usually a good reader. Your previous two posts went well over my head though. I've re-read them several times now, but can't figure them out.Originally Posted by A Nerd
Hey - at least you and I don't start a flamewar over our not understanding the other!!
Well duh, but is there any kind of statistically significant difference between various ethnicities that is not then explained away by environment at the expense of race my Asian-American example. Forget the more problematic notions of race which would be even harder to prove. No good evidence I've seen.
What kind of deduction is this (formalize please)? You are going from individuals and then to...?If a trait is heriditable, and it is different between individuals, then it is subject to evolutionary pressure. So all we need is to show that cognitive abilities differ between individual people, and that there are heriditable aspects. I would show, but neither of these two is in much dispute.
If you are just attempting to state the obvious fact that there is variation in the human population when it comes to cognitive ability and that this may be partly due to genetics (which I don't think anyone questions), then OK.
However, I don't see how this at all lends any credence to any kind of statistically significant cognitive differences between different ethnicities/races that can is primarily explained by biological/genetic factors, which is my interest in the thread.
First, believing that evolution stops at the level of the brain is not necessary for the dualist position (which is what I think you're getting at with the soul comment - forgive me if I'm wrong). Thank god there is still much implicit dualism in neuroscience in their unwillingness to study or speak about any kind of neural mechanism of consciousness ('covert dualism' as called by Arshavsky in his polemical ‘‘Scientific roots’’ of dualism in neuroscience because many scientists generally will not want to explicitly endorse such "pernicious" metaphysical ideas like mind-body dualism which are anathema to their naive worldview guided by the intellectually poor doctrine of falsifiability, damn you Popper!).It's all you need. Everything else is creationist obfuscation: the idea that evolution somehow stops at the human brain, which is the realm of the soul.
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 05-24-2010 at 04:59.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
meaning that our evolution cannot be looked at as an animals because of intellect and how we alter our lives so drastically.?
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