Democracy or What's Right?

[gaelic cowboy]

I hold that it's not democracy or public opinion thats important but reason this is the key 51% cant just vote to genocide the other 49%.

[Furunculus]

I hold that any nation that does not trust it politicians to work collectively for the good of the people, and likewise does not trust the people not to descend into barbarism, should immediately introduce fundamental human rights and party-list proportional representation.

i have no use for fundamental human rights and PR in Britain, precisely because i trust both the people and the government to act in a civilised manner.

[gaelic cowboy]

I hold that any nation that does not trust it politicians to work collectively for the good of the people, and likewise does not trust the people not to descend into barbarism, should immediately introduce fundamental human rights and party-list proportional representation.

i have no use for fundamental human rights and PR in Britain, precisely because i trust both the people and the government to act in a civilised manner.

So your in the reason camp so????? like meself

[Furunculus]

So your in the reason camp so????? like meself

i'm in the "The primacy of public opinion is paramount" camp, for Britain at any rate.

[gaelic cowboy]

But how can opinion be a good idea most people have no opinion on anything or worse they form bad ones or abuse good one's. If you use reason it doesn't matter what opinion you have it will be informed by said reason as opposed to the mob

[Furunculus]

But how can opinion be a good idea most people have no opinion on anything or worse they form bad ones or abuse good one's. If you use reason it doesn't matter what opinion you have it will be informed by said reason as opposed to the mob

is this directed at me, i'm struggling to make a connection?

[gaelic cowboy]

is this directed at me, i'm struggling to make a connection?

Sorry yes it is