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    lol Skull the ban on the Qu'ran and tax on headscarves only exists to be dropped to supposedly not lose face. It isn't constitutionally possible to actually do it, it's a trap and they walked right into. Nasty? Absolutely, but all that is done is depending on stupidity.

    Stupidity? More the greed for power from the CDA and Rutte's ambition to become prime-minister at all costs. I read an article where many PVV electors said the ban on the Qur'an should be the main point of the next cabinet.
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    Stupidity? More the greed for power from the CDA and Rutte's ambition to become prime-minister at all costs. I read an article where many PVV electors said the ban on the Qur'an should be the main point of the next cabinet.
    Got you there I guess, it's not possible it would need a change of the consitution and that takes 2 parlements, 50% aproval is needed at first, and 70% of the next parlement before it can even be even legal.

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    Got you there I guess, it's not possible it would need a change of the consitution and that takes 2 parlements, 50% aproval is needed at first, and 70% of the next parlement before it can even be even legal.
    Got you there! Laws are not required to be tested to the constitution.

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    Got you there! Laws are not required to be tested to the constitution.
    Nope you don't, freedom of religion is a constitutional right, constitutional rights can't just be changed. Politicians can make laws as long as they don't conflict with the constitution, that's the framework they have to work within. You have been played, sorry for also doing it and being better at it.

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    Nope you don't, freedom of religion is a constitutional right, constitutional rights can't just be changed. Politicians can make laws as long as they don't conflict with the constitution, that's the framework they have to work within. You have been played, sorry for also doing it and being better at it.
    Outlawing a book isn't the same as outlawing a religion.
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    Outlawing a book isn't the same as outlawing a religion.
    Mia muca it was never about that, it is and always will be the mullcultural left. You shouldn't be so quik to underestimate people, pretty stupid thing to do

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    Mia muca it was never about that, it is and always will be the mullcultural left. You shouldn't be so quik to underestimate people, pretty stupid thing to do
    Huh? It was never about that, it is and always will be the multicultural left (multicultural left wants to outlaw Qur'an?) You shouldn't be so quik (sic) to underestimate people (the multicultural left will succeed in outlawing the Qur'an?), pretty stupid thing to do

    This makes no sense!
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    Got you there I guess, it's not possible it would need a change of the consitution and that takes 2 parlements, 50% aproval is needed at first, and 70% of the next parlement before it can even be even legal.
    Plus it wouldn't pass first chamber anyway.
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