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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    There are protocols and procedures to follow when bording a ship. These are not created by hippies high on pot, they are created by seasoned captains who have personal experience on the field, and who recognize that panic and confusion is NOT what one wants when sending a small team in amongst a large crew, not for any of the sides.

    If Israel had followed these procuderes, this operation would've been ordered and calm. There would be no confusion, no panic, no casaulties.

    Instead, they chose to disregard all the accumulated wisdom and do it cowboy-style. Whether that's because of ignorance, malice or incompetence, I have no idea.
    Have to agree. Regardless of your views on the blockade, the choice to board, the location of the interception, etc., this will NOT go down in the annals of tactical brilliance -- though I suspect it will be a teachable moment for all involved in that line of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Have to agree. Regardless of your views on the blockade, the choice to board, the location of the interception, etc., this will NOT go down in the annals of tactical brilliance -- though I suspect it will be a teachable moment for all involved in that line of work.
    It gets better, appearently the first boarding attempt from boats was stopped by the crowd with water hoses, stun granades, boxes of plates and with the bars showing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24

    After the crowd is showing clear signs of being riot level hostile, you decide that airdropping one and one into the hostile crowd is a good idea. Someone really messed up there, but then they messed up from the start as well.

    There's also eyewitness reports of shooting live rounds before the airdrop, several of the killed was killed by headshots and several of the dead being journalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Instead, they chose to disregard all the accumulated wisdom and do it cowboy-style. Whether that's because of ignorance, malice or incompetence, I have no idea.
    Maybe it was all three

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    It gets better, appearently the first boarding attempt from boats was stopped by the crowd with water hoses, stun granades, boxes of plates and with the bars showing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24
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    They've got plates? And HOSES? OPEN FIRE!
    The whole incident is just so ridiculous. From the Israelis riding down one at a time and getting pelted with God knows what to the activists armed with plates and throwing people overboard, it would all be hilarious if nobody got killed. I was waiting for....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

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    The whole incident is just so ridiculous. From the Israelis riding down one at a time and getting pelted with God knows what to the activists armed with plates and throwing people overboard, it would all be hilarious if nobody got killed. I was waiting for....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
    Being honest, I can really see that working. Benny Hill playing as Israeli soldiers helicopter rope down into a riot crowd, then having that picture Lemur come-up on screen of Roping 101. etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    The whole incident is just so ridiculous. From the Israelis riding down one at a time and getting pelted with God knows what to the activists armed with plates and throwing people overboard
    I'm not buying the argument made by Israel and its supporter that the activists were all evil and awful. Pick any demonstration you want, then try dropping police officers one by one down in their midst, while shouting "we're closing you down!".

    Who thinks the police won't get attacked in such a situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I'm not buying the argument made by Israel and its supporter that the activists were all evil and awful. Pick any demonstration you want, then try dropping police officers one by one down in their midst, while shouting "we're closing you down!".

    Who thinks the police won't get attacked in such a situation?
    Obviously not everyone was a terrorist I imagine the other boats are full of genuine people but there were plenty whackjobs in amongst them on the Turkish boat fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    Obviously not everyone was a terrorist I imagine the other boats are full of genuine people but there were plenty whackjobs in amongst them on the Turkish boat fact.
    Fact: there are plenty of similar whackjobs in any given demonstration.

    Still people do not die in other places.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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