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    I cant seem to triggor it! Iv had 2 nearly full stack battles and sent 1 generals bodygaurd to his death and its still not happend!

    Any tips to triggor the reform? thx :)

    Edit: oh and yes i did it against parthia, Does the opposing army have to contain cataphracts?
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    LOL, you could simply made him blew his trumpet before frontal charging pahlava line, let his bodyguard stuck, and then flee with only him alive...

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    But i thought u have 2 let him die?

    AH so u must let the bodygaurd die but not the general?
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    If they die... how could they got that traits... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionhard View Post
    But i thought u have 2 let him die?

    AH so u must let the bodygaurd die but not the general?
    Yes of course, as CW said, who's getting the trait intrigued by cataphracts then?

    I think a lot of these questions can be avoided if the EB team could expand their Seleucid reform description a bit.

    Also, yes the enemy needs to have cataphracts on the field.

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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post

    Also, yes the enemy needs to have cataphracts on the field.

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    AFAIK it doesn't... The engine can't recognize cataprhracts; it can't tell the difference between cavalry
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    they must have "heavy cavalry" type (aside of their BG - which was missile cav for spahbade pahlavanig, spatahaura hadabara, and aeldry ayzamblade - the early bodyguards) - so even some kinda indo-saka heavy cav, or some hippeis mercenary is ironically enough for teh triggerz

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    Quote Originally Posted by anubis88 View Post
    AFAIK it doesn't... The engine can't recognize cataprhracts; it can't tell the difference between cavalry
    The trait engine cannot, anyway. It's assumed that if the enemy army has a significant percentage of cavalry (10%? 20%?) there will be cataphracts present, and the general can get the trait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    Yes of course, as CW said, who's getting the trait intrigued by cataphracts then?
    That's easy. He gets the trait "Squashed by Cataphracts" instead.




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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Damn by the sounds of all this the god damn reform DOES need explaining better lmao :) thx guys
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    actually, all you need is pick 2 random character, and wrote this:

    give_trait "Blablabla Surnameblabla" ImpressedByCats1
    give_trait "Lololol Surnamelololol" ImpressedByCats1

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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Wheres the file that holds traits though? im looking now an i cant find it
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    \EB\Data\export_descr_character_traits.txt

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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Sorry to bring this topic back, but i have tried to get this reform to trigger in numerous battles vs big (not full stack) parthian armies led by a parthian general and its not bloodey working.

    Can some 1 tell me EXACTLY word for word what you have to do to get this reform to trigger, i have litrualley tried everything iv spent my whole weekend so far just trying to get this god for saken reform. Id rather do it the propper way than just type some letters in the traits txt. Thank you to who helps.
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    lionhard = always try the hard way....

    good for you though...

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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    well i am supposed to be doing a seleucid AAR, wouldnt be much good, if i was to cheat :P, i may have to though because as i said iv tried countless battles with countless generals to get this reform to trigger :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionhard View Post
    well i am supposed to be doing a seleucid AAR, wouldnt be much good, if i was to cheat :P, i may have to though because as i said iv tried countless battles with countless generals to get this reform to trigger :S
    It's probably hard for your Basileus to explain that to his generals

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    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    and then you could always pretend that finally, your basileus agreed to just bribed out some Pahlavan millitary tacticians, and got the reform by underhand means... (use the cheat )

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    Yes but i dont know where im supposed to type what you said, when i open traits.txt its full of all kinds, means nothing to me. i need it ecplianing in baby steps lol. xx
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    You don't need to open any file;

    When your in your campaign, click the tilde button (the one left of 1 and below ESC on your keybord), and then write in what Cute Wolf said;
    give_trait "Blablabla Surnameblabla" ImpressedByCats1
    give_trait "Lololol Surnamelololol" ImpressedByCats1

    Of course use the names;

    give_trait "Antiochus Megas" ImpressedByCats1
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    Note that if there are three names showed, the last two are written together, without capitalization.

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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Rite u guys may thinking im taking a joke too far but this command thing is not working iv done exatly what you said on about 5 characters and typed it exactly how u said and its not recognising the command or cant find the trait. Im using BI with EB does that matter? so sorry lol :(

    Its also saying it cant find the character. Im positive im spelling everything correct. Why has everythin gotta be so damn hard, does my @$%@^@$^@$ head in
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    Please give me the name of a character in your game, and i'll type precisly what you need to (with spaces and all)
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    Either of these characters please....

    Artaxerxes Eusebes or my faction leader Arrhidaios Eusebes

    Thanks very much :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionhard View Post
    Either of these characters please....

    Artaxerxes Eusebes or my faction leader Arrhidaios Eusebes

    Thanks very much :)
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    Ok, hit the tilde, and type in this:

    give_trait "Artaxerxes Eusebes" ImpressedByCats1

    I'm not totaly sure about where the spaces should be, but i think this is correct... When i cheat i do it without thinking and it works, so i dunno:D
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    Yay it worked, thanks so much :) maybe it was the charecter i was choosing to give the trait to. :S Thx for ur patience :) u have more than me for sure. Do any of you guys have links to download a more graphically superiour campaign map? Im getting a bit bored of the standard 1 and iv seen some very pretty maps on ss's. Thx :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionhard View Post
    Yay it worked, thanks so much :) maybe it was the charecter i was choosing to give the trait to. :S Thx for ur patience :) u have more than me for sure. Do any of you guys have links to download a more graphically superiour campaign map? Im getting a bit bored of the standard 1 and iv seen some very pretty maps on ss's. Thx :P
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    You scroll down to a spoiler called RS Textures, you can download that seperately (it's just one of ||Lz3||'s suggestions).

    So download it and paste it over your own file(s). This IS SAVEGAME COMPATIBLE! Of course, that thread has more savegame compatible suggestions. But you were asking for the RS textures, enjoy them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

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    Thank you my strategos i ow ya 1 :) mwah!
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    Default Re: seleucid reforms

    hello I just stared a Romani campaign and i want to find out how you trigger their reforms now instead of going insane later can any one help
    (n.b the last statement on insanity is irelavant if these reforms occur naturally. i just after a Pahlava campaign) thanks

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