Shogun 2 Total War - confirmed

[Intranetusa]

until then you can be our resident troll: fine by me :)

As expected, you have been unable to answer even a single one of my questions.

You are unable to defend your Romanticized view of the katana being a godlike sword, or the samurai being mystical undefeatable warriors.
And you haven't even addressed my argument that Shogun:TW is not nearly as diverse as RTW or MTW in terms of factions and creativity.

All you've done is resort to petty ad hominem attacks.

[gollum]

ad hominem attacks are my specialty ;)

[Intranetusa]

ad hominem attacks are my specialty ;)

Ok. :D

I hope CA at least makes the the AI decent, then I will still buy it and wait for mods that might add new land like the rest of East Asia...

[A Nerd]

I hope CA at least makes the the AI decent, then I will still buy it and wait for mods that might add new land like the rest of East Asia...

Agreed. I would like it moddable of course...expansion pack and not just mods of the rest of asia would be nice too! Everybody loves those Mongols!

[Intranetusa]

Agreed. I would like it moddable of course...expansion pack and not just mods of the rest of asia would be nice too! Everybody loves those Mongols!

Mongol General: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
Mongol General: That is good! That is good.

Mongols pwn everybody...

BTW, diversity doesn't make a game good. Neither does sameness. Great graphics and realistic sounds don't either. The game has to be fun to play and everything else is icing on the cake.

Perhaps. If they make a dramatic leap in gameplay, it might be worth it. (mainly creating a battle AI that doesn't suck - ie. charging their cavalry general into your line of spearmen in the first 5 minutes, or a campaign AI that also doesn't suck - ie. a bankrupt faction 1/10 your size breaking their alliance and attacking your full stack elites with 5 units of levies)

If the gameplay-AI isn't given a huge overhaul, playing and fighting the same Japanese factions over and over again isn't exactly my cup of tea... :/

[AussieGiant]

ad hominem attacks are my specialty ;)

Ah Jesus, I like it when the old rat pack types get back together. It's a real throw back section here at the moment.

[Gregoshi]

You are unable to defend your Romanticized view of the katana being a godlike sword, or the samurai being mystical undefeatable warriors.

To be fair, your counter to gollum's argument on the katana was no better. He said/he said. No links or references from either of you. It's a draw. On to the next point gentlemen.

[Intranetusa]

To be fair, your counter to gollum's argument on the katana was no better. He said/he said. No links or references from either of you. It's a draw. On to the next point gentlemen.

Well, his argument was that katanas are much better than good Euro swords. My argument was basically that, no, they are not much better.

He is the one making a statement. So the burden of proof mainly falls on him - he needs to prove that katanas are better than quality European swords in the first place.

[A Nerd]

You could even mod in 8th century Britain

With Samurai however.

All arguments aside, this has turned into quite an interesting thread!

[Gregoshi]

He is the one making a statement. So the burden of proof mainly falls on him - he needs to prove that katanas are better than quality European swords in the first place.

And you would be right if you just ask for sources. However, you made your own statement and thus shouldered the burden of proof with him. Very sporting of you.