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Joooray 18:46 07-05-2010
Originally Posted by Secura:
vote: Joooray

His recent posts include: accusations against pro-town who's claims haven't been countered, fluff reasoning for his vote and fluff posts in general, heavy attempts to look town by appearing as a mediator, soft-claiming... he's setting off alot of alarm bells, personally.

Just check his last post!
So I'm scummy because I don't go along with everybody else? There was no need to, the bandwagon this time around each strong enough without me joining them.
Also, as I said, I found it highly unfavourable how the lynch on Beefy went, and someone has to answer for it or at least give an explanation on how it could happened. And I try to stress that by voting john.
And if that makes me scummy, so be it.

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hell_hound 19:10 07-05-2010
I am not too keen to jump on these bandwagons :( (As a vote to prove I am present vote:abstain)

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Krill 20:01 07-05-2010
unvote, vote: Frozen in Ice

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Frozen In Ice 20:12 07-05-2010
Oh come on. I am being accused of being this:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

When it is pretty obvious that I am this:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


So on that note I think that Vote: Khazzar is an infinitely better choice.

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Beskar 20:47 07-05-2010
Originally Posted by Frozen In Ice:
I have not forgotten that at all. It doesn't seem like that theory holds much water in it then, if everyone else voting for you wasn't mafia. Perhaps mafia would be extremely careful to moniter the situation and change their vote once it became apparent Pinman was unsaveable, no?
I've recorded those who have changed vote, they were not being ignored.

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ArpeggiateTHIS 21:17 07-05-2010
Originally Posted by Frozen In Ice:
Hmm, seems things have gotten a little out of hand while I was using the in space flight facilities. I'd like to note that the main two apparently scummy actions that seem to be counted against me are the vote for Beskar during the Pinman thing, and the vote for Beefy. I'd like to remind everyone that on the day that I voted for Beskar many people did as well, and while most were able to change their votes after Pinman's scumminess became apparent, I wasn't due to how late that came (along with Beskar's roleclaim) in the day. On Beefy, my explanation was just a gut feeling I had, pretty much the same one ArpeggiateTHIS had. By the way, Choxorn's tally showed ArpeggiateTHIS voting for Beefy after he already saw his ability prove him innocent; did he ever explain this?

I am a simple Cornerian. Many of you seem to have your scum detectors broken; all you guys are doing is proving that it's possible to make any action appear scummy if you twist it enough.
I must have completely forgotten about that, may bad. If I may use an excuse at this point (which can be verified by Subotan who also attended my college), I had my final exams at the ealier stages of the game and participation was limited. But yeah, my bad.

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Secura 22:32 07-05-2010
Originally Posted by Joooray:
So I'm scummy because I don't go along with everybody else?
Let's get this straight; you're avoiding bandwagons, which I agree isn't inherently scummy in it's own right, but then you offer fluff reasoning for the votes that you do cast and then subtlety chastise the town for making incorrect lynches... all this, without offering a reasonable alternative instead!

Originally Posted by :
Also, as I said, I found it highly unfavourable how the lynch on Beefy went
Ignoring john's own input, Beefy's lynch was advocated by Falco Lombardi/Romanic; when a confirmed pro-town role calls for your lynch, a woeful self-defense is not going to save your hide, and I think Beefy would be the first to admit that his defense against the accusations was half-hearted.

His self-vote speaks volumes alone.

Originally Posted by :
And I try to stress that by voting john.
Until someone states otherwise, you're casting your vote on a pro-town role... he isn't going to answer any of your concerns without sufficient pressure, and until someone comes out and says "john is lying about his role claim", then you're simply going to find it hard to muster significant support.

Do bear in mind that the suspicions about Beefy were first voiced by john, but the general change in votes came after Romanic answered the calls for a Star Fox member to give their opinion.

Originally Posted by :
And if that makes me scummy, so be it.
There's more to it than that, as I have already stated.

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Joooray 23:48 07-05-2010
Alright, I admit, I'm not making a reasonable, alternative case myself and I'm not actually looking for a lynch of john, because I'm aware that as long as none from the Star Fox comes out and disputes the claim of john being a part of them, we can safely assume that he is not lying.
All I wanted was that the whole business of the Beefy lynch was not forgotten over the ever so changing bandwagons this time around. And because of you I was successful, so thank you.

I just wanted to express my discontent with the apparent current state of the pro-town movement. That's all.

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Nightbringer 05:47 07-06-2010
normally im not much in favor of bandwagons, but ive been suspicious of you for a while frozen, and your defense has not been convincing. to both you and landlubber, if you are so believably cornarian, just post your role pm. that will be enough to convince me you are one and to change my vote.
until then

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Nightbringer 05:49 07-06-2010
vote: Frozen In Ice

sorry about the double post, i had to because of edit

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Askthepizzaguy 06:36 07-06-2010
This round has been over for the past hour and a half; apologies for my tardiness. I will get to work on the writeup immediately.

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Choxorn 07:41 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Nightbringer:
normally im not much in favor of bandwagons, but ive been suspicious of you for a while frozen, and your defense has not been convincing. to both you and landlubber, if you are so believably cornarian, just post your role pm. that will be enough to convince me you are one and to change my vote.
until then
That would hardly be convincing, considering the Cornerian and Venomian Role PM's remain posted on some early page.

So, write-up soon?

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Askthepizzaguy 08:34 07-06-2010
Day Phase Seven





General Pepper: If you're going to do a direct assault on Venom, take out the defense satellite. That way we will be able to move our fleet into orbit unopposed.

Fox McCloud: I'm on it, General!






Stage Seven: Bolse Defense Outpost

Good luck!





You can watch this video for fun, but it doesn't quite fit into the story.
Instead, click on the music below it to accompany the writeup. Watch this video afterward if you want.





_______________________



Click for music.









The Star Fox team and a group of Cornerian fighters advanced on Bolse, the constructed defense outpost in orbit around Venom. They had taken casualties just attempting to reach the outpost.



Fox McCloud: This is it, let's get ready to rumble.

Slippy Toad: Rumble pak engaged!

Peppy Hare: Slippy, watch out, you've got a bogey on your tail!


Slippy Toad: Woah! Help me!

Fox McCloud: I've got you covered, Slippy.

Slippy Toad: Something's wrong.... the satellite seems to be protected by some kind of energy shield.

Fox McCloud: I've got you now.... shoot! These fighters also seem to be protected by an energy shield. Even my hyper blaster doesn't do any damage.

Peppy Hare: Everyone, try evasive maneuvers! If we can't figure out how to shut down those shields then we're going to get pulverized!

Slippy Toad: Fox, I've taken damage! I'm monkey food if I don't leave!

Peppy Hare: Me too.... Sorry guys, I've gotta sit this one out!

Fox McCloud: All craft, full retreat.






Wolf O'Donnell Can't let you do that, Star Fox.

Leon Powalski: I think I'll torture you for a while.

Panther Caroso: Greetings, Star Fox. Allow me to introduce myself.... I am Panther. All who see my rose will perish.

Andrew Oikonny: Yeah, and it looks like your little frog is hopping away. Get back here and face the might of Star Wolf!

Pigma Dengar: Hey, where's Peppy fleeing to? Without even saying hello? I'm insulted! Hee hee hee......


Wolf O'Donnell So, this is the heroic "Star Fox" in action? HA! You're not so tough. Running away at the first sign of trouble?

Leon Powalski: Where's the rest of his team? What's wrong Fox, did they abandon you?

Panther Caroso: Such a move would be a great dishonor.

Fox McCloud: Hey, watch it guys. I ordered that retreat. This place is too dangerous while their shields are still up.

Andrew Oikonny: You're not such a big shot without your backup around, are you?

Pigma Dengar: Yeah, can't handle the pressure? Or are you afraid you might fall in combat? I guess you're nowhere near as heroic as your "daddy..."

Fox McCloud: If you're trying to get under my skin, it is not going to work.

Wolf O'Donnell Why don't you go back to Corneria, where it's safe? Leave the hard work to someone who knows what he's doing.

Leon Powalski: If you can't run with the big dogs, you've got no business flying, Fox.

Andrew Oikonny: You're not welcome here! Get out, Fox.

Pigma Dengar: You can't beat us. We've got better ships!

Fox McCloud: I'm not looking for a fight. We're here to defeat Andross...

Wolf O'Donnell YOU???? You wouldn't stand a chance against Andross. Your ships are fleeing from a tiny unmanned space station just because it has extra shielding. Your team is in disarray, and your fleet is taking a severe beating. You run at the first sign of trouble. You haven't been much use in taking down Andross' minions. What good are you, anyway?

Leon Powalski: You're way out of your league, rookie. Leave the real jobs to the professionals, and finally learn your place.

Andrew Oikonny: You'd better listen up, or you'll be sorry!

Pigma Dengar: I've got an idea.... *oink* let's just put him outta business. Getting rid of the competition would be quite profitable.

Fox McCloud: Is that all you think about, is money?

Pigma Dengar: Hey, you gotta earn a living. It's not like you work for free, so get off my back! *oink*

Wolf O'Donnell Well? Are you just going to stick around, or are you going to wise up and leave?

Fox McCloud: ...........I'm not leaving. I'll go it alone from here.

Wolf O'Donnell What? You clueless fool! You can't even shoot down their ships!

Fox McCloud: There's gotta be a way to defeat them. What are you guys going to do, keep talking tough, or are you prepared to back it up with some action?

Leon Powalski: We certainly don't need your pathetic assistance.

Fox McCloud: Sure you don't. By the way, you've got a group of fighters on your tail.

Leon Powalski: I know that! I'm not worried about some unmanned drones! I am the GREAT LEON!!!

Panther Caroso: Ahhh.... finally some worthy prey.....

Fox McCloud: Hey, look..... the force field is disappearing. There's something emerging.....

Leon Powalski: Check your scanners.

Andrew Oikonny: There's over 200 drones coming towards our position!

Wolf O'Donnell What the heck?

Fox McCloud: It's decision time, Wolf.... are you going to fight that army, or are you going to get out while you still can?

Wolf O'Donnell Oh be quiet, you... amateur! Wolfen fighters, evasive sequence nine. Regroup at Saragossa.

Pigma Dengar: It's too late! We're completely surrounded!

Fox McCloud: General Pepper, come in. I need the Cornerian Fleet to converge on my coordinates. The enemy army has emerged! Repeat, I need backup, now!

General Pepper: I read you, Fox. I'm sending in the Fleet.

Fox McCloud: Here come the reinforcements!










The Cornerian Fleet began engaging the army of automated drones just above the surface of Bolse. The Lylat Cruisers were able to penetrate the drone fighter's shields, but only rarely. The small craft were too maneuverable to be hit. Cornerian fighters chased them down and attempted to blow them to pieces, with blasters and missile fire. All of the weapons on the Cornerian fighters were unable to penetrate the drone's shielding, and many Cornerian fighters were overwhelmed by the numbers of the drones.





Wolf O'Donnell: There's an opening in the field, heading 105 mark 27. Let's leave this one to "Mister hero"....

Leon Powalski: Acknowledged.

Pigma Dengar: Have fun, little man! Don't work too hard! Hah hah hah!!!

Panther Caroso: Meeting you has been a pleasure. I hope to see you again in one piece.... if you survive.

Andrew Oikonny: You think he'll survive? I don't think so. Hey Fox.... give it up! You can't win!

Wolf O'Donnell: Until next we meet, Fox..... try not to fail too horribly.

Fox McCloud: You're welcome, guys. General Pepper, let's get the fleet out of harm's way. There's nothing more that can be done here, we're just not inflicting enough damage.

General Pepper: Loud and clear Fox. Everyone, regroup at the base at Macbeth.

Fox McCloud: Damage report, all craft!

Frozen in Ice: This is Blue 8... My shield is down, and my life support system has shorted out! I'm breathing through an oxygen mask, and my cockpit is venting air into space! It.... it's..... so...... c-c-c-c-cold.....

Fox McCloud: Blue 8, do you think you can make it to Macbeth?


*red klaxons go off inside Frozen's cockpit. The fusion reactor is about to go critical*


Frozen in Ice: I don't think I need to worry about that anymore, Fox. This is Blue 8 to all nearby craft, my reactor is about to blow.... move to a safe distance!

Fox McCloud: Blue 8, can't you shut it down? Frozen, do you read me???

Frozen in Ice: I'm sorry Fox..... tell my wife, Boiling in Oil, that I love her very much. All right, you alien drone buttholes, if I'm going down I'm taking you with me.



Frozen in Ice piloted his craft back towards Bolse, heading directly for the satellites' main shield generator, which is protected by a squadron of drones and surrounded by automated ion cannons. He powered up his engines and began his suicide run.







Frozen in Ice: ZEPPELIN RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULES!!!!!









MISSION FAILED

Allies down: 1







Frozen in Ice- Cornerian fighter









Frozen in Ice: Take it easy Fox, don't let us down. Just play it cool!


Official tally:

Originally Posted by :
Frozen: (10) Beskar, Diana, autolycus, ATPGood, Miotas, DIY, choxorn, Skooma, Psycho, Krill
Khazaar: (5) shlin28, landlubber, Chaotix, civplayah, TheFlax, Nightbringer [voted late]
landlubber: (2) WEW, CDF
Joooray: (2) Yaseikhaan, Secura
JHT: Joooray
Choxorn: pever
abstain: Hell_hound

NOT VOTING: (6) Double A, johnhughthom, Khazaar, Nictel, Stuck in Pi
Alive: (29/44)

Alexander the Pretty Good
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beskar
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
hell_hound
johnhughthom
Joooray
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
Miotas
Nictel
Nightbringer
Death is Yonder
Secura
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Stuck in Pi
TheFlax
pevergreen
Psychonaut
wideyedwanderer
Yaseikhaan


Dead: (15/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot

civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi
God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot

Beefy187- Rob64
Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Frozen in Ice- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot


Out of this Dimension: (4/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.

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Pinman 08:55 07-06-2010
Andross is pleased.

Watch out Fox.....

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ArpeggiateTHIS 09:43 07-06-2010
Well we have our results, conclusive if not the better reveal we hoped for.

My vote on Landlubber isn't there, therefore he's Cornerian.


EDIT: I thought you guys were going for Khazaar, a proven Venomian/Big Bad. Instead all we've done downed an allied fighter.

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Renata 13:36 07-06-2010
About time you scumbags got around to killing me. Now for the second half of my plan, to be re-incarnated as anything other than a vanilla townie.

(Good write-up, Pizza, btw. )

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naut 15:05 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS:
Well we have our results, conclusive if not the better reveal we hoped for.

My vote on Landlubber isn't there, therefore he's Cornerian.


EDIT: I thought you guys were going for Khazaar, a proven Venomian/Big Bad. Instead all we've done downed an allied fighter.
Regardless. We've made progress. Which is a townie's job. We lynch Khaz tomorrow then.

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Joooray 16:39 07-06-2010
Wife "Boiling in Oil" ... genius.

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Frozen In Ice 16:43 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Joooray:
Wife "Boiling in Oil" ... genius.
I must say that was hiliarious! Anyway, good luck townies.

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Beskar 16:52 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
Regardless. We've made progress. Which is a townie's job. We lynch Khaz tomorrow then.
Indeed, we now know both Landlubber and Frozen in Ice were townies, and they were high on everyones suspect list. Double A will check out Khazaar and check if he is Venom or big bad.

Originally Posted by :
I thought you guys were going for Khazaar, a proven Venomian/Big Bad. Instead all we've done downed an allied fighter.
Landlubber role-claimed as Cornerian, Frozen in Ice didn't roleclaim at all. Either way, we dealt with the top suspects, which narrows down who the mafia are.

There are now 13 people I don't know the identities for. Which means I know over 50% of the game.

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Joooray 16:54 07-06-2010
Well let's hope all the important people survive the night.

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ArpeggiateTHIS 18:48 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Joooray:
Well let's hope all the important people survive the night.
I wonder if a desperate mafia would show their hand and make the maximum kills allowed tonight to try and silence us. Either way, we've developed a strong vanilla base by now and we're putting the pressure on.

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Choxorn 19:17 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
Regardless. We've made progress. Which is a townie's job. We lynch Khaz tomorrow then.
If Double A scans him and sees he's not Neutral.

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Double A 21:47 07-06-2010
If he's neutral, we've got nothing to worry about. However, what if he's a townie? Is there a 100% chance he's either mafia or neutral?

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Beskar 21:53 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Double A:
If he's neutral, we've got nothing to worry about. However, what if he's a townie? Is there a 100% chance he's either mafia or neutral?
Yes.

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ArpeggiateTHIS 22:11 07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Double A:
If he's neutral, we've got nothing to worry about. However, what if he's a townie? Is there a 100% chance he's either mafia or neutral?
My results prove that he isn't town. We're dealing with either neutral or mafia here.

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Double A 22:44 07-06-2010
Cool.

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Nightbringer 02:49 07-07-2010
Originally Posted by Choxorn:
That would hardly be convincing, considering the Cornerian and Venomian Role PM's remain posted on some early page.

So, write-up soon?
they were, i guess i just missed that entirely somehow. damn, keeping those secret would have been nice, oh well

and sorry ice, i guess i was wrong. i hope we can anil down khaazar though, as then this plan will have been somewhat succesful at least

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Choxorn 04:29 07-07-2010
Originally Posted by Nightbringer:
i hope we can anil down khaazar though,
The misspelling of "Nail" sounds so wrong and so funny at the same time.

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Nightbringer 04:39 07-07-2010
ya, im a supremely lazy typer, spoiled by microsoft word i think. ill just leave it that way though, its to good to take away

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